American pilots charged in Amazon jetliner crash

Greg Farris wrote:
In article .com,
says...


Americans always get ****ed off when the U.S. deports U.S. citizens to
stand trail in foreign countries. Why do you think this will be
different?


With all due respect, you're being a bit hard-headed about it.
You keep responding with generalities about extradition and US marshals
and all that jazz, when what people here are trying to say to you is that
it is, in fact, the specifics of this case that make it appear likely they
will not be going back there. Who knows, we may be wrong - but that's what
it looks like.

I"m not sure why you say that. I think the gov't fully expects them to
return. I'm not sure why there were down there but its also likely that
their jobs require frequent returns there. In anycase, to do return,
without legal resolution means they are living life on the run and may
be arrested at any point in the U.S. No the way most people like to
live. It also prevents them from being employable by any airline
(outstanding warrents in any country)

-Robert

wrote in message oups.com...
:
: Guy Elden Jr wrote:
: This story just gets more and more bizarre... based on the evidence
: I've seen reported so far, it certainly sounds to me like the Brazilian
: air traffic control system itself is solely to blame for this accident.
:
: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americ....ap/index.html
:
: --
: Guy
:
: Anyone that's been following the story is fairly clued in to what's
: going on. I can't imagine they'll return, and I think our gov't will
: have a big problem on their hands if they try to force these guys back
: down there - I highly doubt they will based on what I've seen.
:

So they will always have this hanging over them. They should go down there and fight. If Brazil wants to play in the
world market they need to acknowledge their short comings and get them fixed. The ATC system down there is to blame for
this crash, and ATC is run by their military, so it will be real interesting to see if they ever admit guilt...

Blueskies writes:

So they will always have this hanging over them. They should go
down there and fight.

Which countries have you visited?

If Brazil wants to play in the world market they need to acknowledge
their short comings and get them fixed. The ATC system down there is to blame for
this crash, and ATC is run by their military, so it will be real
interesting to see if they ever admit guilt...

Their ATC system affects only flights in their airspace. The rest of
the world doesn't care. If it's an ATC problem and they don't fix it,
people might become more reluctant to travel by air in Brazil, but
that's it. And even that is unlikely to happen, because most people
don't follow or care about such things, and air travel is the only way
to get to a lot of places in Brazil (and the only way to get to many
more places in any reasonable time).

--
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Blueskies wrote:

....They should go down there and fight. ...

And risk rotting in a Brazillian prison for 12 years away from their
familes should they lose? Not worth it...

--Dan

"Dan" wrote in message
oups.com...

Blueskies wrote:

....They should go down there and fight. ...

And risk rotting in a Brazillian prison for 12 years away from their
familes should they lose? Not worth it...

I think that's what Brazil is counting on; if they don't return, they
(Brazil) can hold a sham trial in absentia and find them guilty of
everything, thus covering their own asses which are presently hanging out in
the wind.

http://joesharkeyat.blogspot.com/200...zarre-and.html
(Joe Sharkey was the journalist aboard the Legacy jet)


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO (MTJ)

And a felon in another county is still considered a felon in
the USA, say good bye to your civil rights.



"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
|
| "Dan" wrote in message
|
oups.com...
|
| Blueskies wrote:
|
| ....They should go down there and fight. ...
|
| And risk rotting in a Brazillian prison for 12 years
away from their
| familes should they lose? Not worth it...
|
| I think that's what Brazil is counting on; if they don't
return, they
| (Brazil) can hold a sham trial in absentia and find them
guilty of
| everything, thus covering their own asses which are
presently hanging out in
| the wind.
|
|
http://joesharkeyat.blogspot.com/200...zarre-and.html
| (Joe Sharkey was the journalist aboard the Legacy jet)
|
|
| --
| Matt
| ---------------------
| Matthew W. Barrow
| Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
| Montrose, CO (MTJ)
|
|

"Dan" wrote in message oups.com...
:
: Blueskies wrote:
:
: ....They should go down there and fight. ...
:
: And risk rotting in a Brazillian prison for 12 years away from their
: familes should they lose? Not worth it...
:
: --Dan
:

That is your opinion...if they let this hang out there, it could snag them at any time, pretty much anywhere. This
should definitely be something that the state dept should be heavily involved in, but not a word from them as far as I
know.

What I want to know is, why aren't the press riding in airliners
overflying the area of interest and reporting on whether or not the
crews are able to communicate and be seen on radar? Instead, they are
only reporting what the controllers and the Brazilian functionaries are
telling them about conditions in the area.

"BS" == Blueskies writes:
BS This should
BS definitely be something that the state dept should be heavily
BS involved in, but not a word from them as far as I know.

"State" should be doing all kinds of things in many problem areas of
the world...but look at their record the last 6 years. Why should
their leadership suddenly become competent on this issue?

--
I sent the club a wire stating, Please accept my resignation. I don't
want to belong to any club that will accept me as a member.
Groucho Marx

It gets worse than that. The gun laws in the USA, the Brady
Instant Check, the Lautenberg amendments, the Form 4473 all
check and ask if you are a "fugitive from justice" and if
those pilots do not go back to Brazil and get cleared, they
will be criminals here if the presently own, possess or buy
any firearms.




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"Blueskies" wrote in message
t...
|
| wrote in message
oups.com...
| :
| : Guy Elden Jr wrote:
| : This story just gets more and more bizarre... based on
the evidence
| : I've seen reported so far, it certainly sounds to me
like the Brazilian
| : air traffic control system itself is solely to blame
for this accident.
| :
| :
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americ....ap/index.html
| :
| : --
| : Guy
| :
| : Anyone that's been following the story is fairly clued
in to what's
| : going on. I can't imagine they'll return, and I think
our gov't will
| : have a big problem on their hands if they try to force
these guys back
| : down there - I highly doubt they will based on what I've
seen.
| :
|
| So they will always have this hanging over them. They
should go down there and fight. If Brazil wants to play in
the
| world market they need to acknowledge their short comings
and get them fixed. The ATC system down there is to blame
for
| this crash, and ATC is run by their military, so it will
be real interesting to see if they ever admit guilt...
|
|