Plosi One

In a previous article, "gatt" said:
Maybe it's 'cause they don't want too much attention drawn to Cheney's C-17,
(anybody here in Jackson Hole to confirm this? A woman at the FBO said
whenever he comes home, a C-17 shows up with security and all and
monkeywrenches all of the GA operations there.)

Apropos of nothing, several years ago a C-130 crashed departing Jackson
Hole with some sort of security detail because they didn't follow the
published departure. I can't remember if it was Cheney or Clinton's. I
wonder if they went to the C-17 for the higher capacity, or because it
climbs better.

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On Feb 9, 5:53 pm, "gatt" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in oglegroups.com...

It's Pelosi, and what B757? Can somebody identify "Nancy's B757" or
demonstrate that she has ever used or even requested such at thing

She did request it. She believed that the GulfStream Hastered had used
was too small. If you have a newspaper you'll find the story inside.

I've found the story and it includes Tony Snow from the White House blowing
the whistle on the whole issue and defending Pelosi.

Maybe it's 'cause they don't want too much attention drawn to Cheney's C-17,
(anybody here in Jackson Hole to confirm this? A woman at the FBO said
whenever he comes home, a C-17 shows up with security and all and
monkeywrenches all of the GA operations there.)

Or, maybe Tony Snow is telling it straight. But the White House is
defending Pelosi in the articles I've read today.

-c

I live here in the "Hole" and my plane is based at JAC. Unless you sat
here and watched the carnival everytime Dick comes home to roost you
would never believe how much money is spent. It will make you shake
your head in disbelief. The last time he was here they used 2 C-17's,
a 757 and god knows what other support stuff, The C-130 into terrain
was a Clinton support plane carrying secret service stuff they use to
listen to all the cell phones and read emails. Ya think they don't
monitor stuff?? This posting will really **** them off,. G

gatt wrote:

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...


It's Pelosi, and what B757? Can somebody identify "Nancy's B757" or
demonstrate that she has ever used or even requested such at thing

She did request it. She believed that the GulfStream Hastered had used
was too small. If you have a newspaper you'll find the story inside.


I've found the story and it includes Tony Snow from the White House blowing
the whistle on the whole issue and defending Pelosi.

Maybe it's 'cause they don't want too much attention drawn to Cheney's C-17,
(anybody here in Jackson Hole to confirm this? A woman at the FBO said
whenever he comes home, a C-17 shows up with security and all and
monkeywrenches all of the GA operations there.)

Or, maybe Tony Snow is telling it straight. But the White House is
defending Pelosi in the articles I've read today.

Well, since Cheney has a super special C-17 that is larger than the
C-5A, I can see why they want to keep that top secret. :-)

Matt

gatt wrote:
CNN reports that Nancy's B757 operating costs are $22,000.00 an hour.

How many seats in a B757?


It's Pelosi, and what B757? Can somebody identify "Nancy's B757" or
demonstrate that she has ever used or even requested such at thing

Here's one of the reasons I'm no longer a Republican. They lie like
Democrats and then believe their own lies, and try to convince millions of
otherwise-thinking people to believe them too.

Even Tony Snow, on behalf of the White House, is telling them to STFU about
it. "This is a silly story, and I think it's been unfair to the
peaker." - Tony Snow.

"It's not a question of size, it's a question of distance. We want an
aircraft that can reach California." - Pelosi. "...I have said that I am
happy to ride commercial if the plane they have doesn't go coast to coast."

Dick Cheney flies to Jackson Hole in a C-17, doesn't he?

-c


It is not Nancy's. It is the speaker of the house. Condie has one, as
does Dick. There are smaller airplanes, like learjets and Gulfstreams.
much cheaper to run than the 757.

CNN is going for the biggest bang for the buck and story.

Michelle

"Michelle P" wrote in message
news:0M6zh.20372

CNN is going for the biggest bang for the buck and story.

It ain't the media who made the stink, it was the Republicans.

A USAF Major and another person told me that Cheney has a C-17 with him when
he flies home to Jackson Hole. I was a little doubtful. But then
I found this: http://www.mtexpress.com/2003/03-08-...8-06murphy.htm
For this last stop before going to his vacation home in Jackson, Wyo.,
Cheney required:

a.. The Air Force's largest transport, the four-jet C-17 Globemaster, to
cart two armored Cadillac limousines and three Secret Service SUVs.


b.. Two military Blackhawk helicopters for over-flight security and
surveillance.


c.. Two Air Force-operated twin-jet luxury Gulfstream jets.


d.. An estimated two dozen Secret Service agents, plus vice presidential
aides.


e.. Added security from the Idaho State Police, Blaine County Sheriff's
Office, and Bellevue, Hailey and Ketchum police departments stationed along
state Highway 75.
Counting a fund-raising stop in Salt Lake City that raised $300,000 and the
Bellevue reception that harvested another $175,000, the irony is that
government costs of this outing undoubtedly far exceeded contributions...



Michelle

"gatt" wrote in message


I was a little doubtful. But then I found this: snip

....and felt compelled to post it twice. How thoughtful.

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gatt writes:

Here's one of the reasons I'm no longer a Republican. They lie like
Democrats and then believe their own lies, and try to convince millions of
otherwise-thinking people to believe them too.

One sign of the decline of a democracy is that people become attached to
political parties, rather than interest themselves in individual candidates
and politicians. They systematically reject all parties other than their own,
and unconditionally support their own party, which leads to all sorts of
manipulation and abuse. I guess it's easier to blindly accept and reject
based on a single group criterion (party affiliation) than it is to actually
evaluate individuals on their own merits. Unfortunately, it's also a path to
totalitarianism.

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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


CNN reports that Nancy's B757 operating costs are $22,000.00 an hour.

How many seats in a B757?

In this case, 42.

From Google:
"The C-32 she requested is about the size of a Boeing 757-200 and has
seating for 42 on it." "In its commercial configuration the 757-200 usually
seats 175-190 passengers."

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On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 17:24:36 -0500, "John T"
wrote in
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"In its commercial configuration the 757-200 usually
seats 175-190 passengers."

Lets call it 180 seats.

Given the OP's assertion:

CNN reports that Nancy's B757 operating costs are $22,000.00 an
hour.

That works out to $122.22 per hour at what, 500 knots?

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 00:43:20 GMT, Larry Dighera wrote:

That works out to $122.22 per hour at what, 500 knots?

Cheaper than a Cessna 172 ....


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