Gloom

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Or a simulator. No, I'm not joking.

I find it interesting that you are the only poster here who thinks a
simulator can replace primary flight instruction.

I suspect a correlation between that belief and a complete lack of primary
flight instruction.

El Maximo writes:

I find it interesting that you are the only poster here who thinks a
simulator can replace primary flight instruction.

Most people here are pretty set in their ways.

If all of your aviation is in a simulator, you don't need any other
instruction. And if you lose your medical (or if any one of a hundred other
things come up to impede your ability to fly for real), that's where all your
aviation is going to be.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Larry Dighera writes:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:49:49 -0700, James Sleeman
wrote:

10 years from now, I expect that the large majority of recreational
and student pilots will behind the stick of an LSA,

Or a sailplane.

Or a simulator. No, I'm not joking.


No, we know you're not joking. That 's what makes you 'special'

Bertie

Hey Jay...

Its really striking to read this after I just got back from watching
the sun set 2000 feet over Point Reyes (the Western-Most point in
California).

I Bought my bird/passed my check ride at 24, I'm now 25. Being a
pilot in my generation (The "boomerang generation"... how's that for a
distinction) has been a weird experience. Let me put it this way -
when I told my highschool friends that I had just purchased an
aircraft, the reaction I received was... well, frankly, about akin to
that I would I have expected if I had told them I had just been
selected as an astronaut. Its not that they didn't respect it. It
was just that, for this generation, so sheltered by parents who never
wished for them to feel rough ground on their feet, the concept of any
one of their peers taking on a roll with so much risk and
responsibility attached was _literally_ beyond their capacity to
comprehend. "You WHAT?!" "Isn't that dangerous?" "Don't you get
scared?" "That's so cool... I wish I could do that..." The response
ranges from horror to disbelief to jealousy... the only attitude sadly
missing is "cool, how can I get into that?" The idea that flying an
aircraft is an option available to them simply does not exist.

I don't know whether the issue is bad publicity on the part of GA, or
whether it's just a testament to the pathetic nature of my
generation. I'm betting on the latter.

But either way... I mourn it.

The Piper CEO's words bother, but do not surprise me. It's right
along the same lines as my generation's sentiments- that the future of
aviation (and hence the money) lies with the privilidged few. That
the concept that the every day man who possesses the passion and
desire can fly and should be supported in doing so is being lost.
Every day the dream of flight moves further towards that available
only towards the privileged upper echelon.

The young blood is out there... I know many of them... but not nearly
enough. I just wish I knew what I could do about it.

I wish I knew that there was something I could do about it.

But in the end all I can say is screw it. Screw my generation, screw
the affluence-chasing new CEO piper... In the end all that matters is
that I can go watch the sun set from 2000 feet over the Pacific Ocean
on a whim...

And wow, it was beautiful.

-Scott

EridanMan writes:

But in the end all I can say is screw it. Screw my generation, screw
the affluence-chasing new CEO piper... In the end all that matters is
that I can go watch the sun set from 2000 feet over the Pacific Ocean
on a whim...

In part, you illustrate the problem: Aviation is attainable for you because
you are so passionate about it that you are willing to sacrifice many other
things to have it. But most people aren't that way, and aviation is so
cripplingly expensive that anyone who doesn't have a very single-minded
interest in it--or a fat bank account--cannot see it as a practical option.
That's the real problem for GA, not any fear of flying.

However, I do agree that the fearfulness of society as a whole today is
remarkable and worrisome, the result of decades of high-tech media propaganda
cashing in on paranoia and FUD. Unfortunately, fearful people are very easily
manipulated and controlled, and tend to make only irrational decisions when
allowed to act on their own.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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EridanMan writes:

But in the end all I can say is screw it. Screw my generation, screw
the affluence-chasing new CEO piper... In the end all that matters
is that I can go watch the sun set from 2000 feet over the Pacific
Ocean on a whim...

In part, you illustrate the problem: Aviation is attainable for you
because you are so passionate about it that you are willing to
sacrifice many other things to have it.


Also helps if you're not bankrupt####

Bertie

On Jun 18, 2:41 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
EridanMan writes:
But in the end all I can say is screw it. Screw my generation, screw
the affluence-chasing new CEO piper... In the end all that matters is
that I can go watch the sun set from 2000 feet over the Pacific Ocean
on a whim...

In part, you illustrate the problem: Aviation is attainable for you because
you are so passionate about it that you are willing to sacrifice many other
things to have it. But most people aren't that way, and aviation is so
cripplingly expensive that anyone who doesn't have a very single-minded
interest in it--or a fat bank account--cannot see it as a practical option.
That's the real problem for GA, not any fear of flying.

However, I do agree that the fearfulness of society as a whole today is
remarkable and worrisome, the result of decades of high-tech media propaganda
cashing in on paranoia and FUD. Unfortunately, fearful people are very easily
manipulated and controlled, and tend to make only irrational decisions when
allowed to act on their own.

Sometimes, fearful Americans move to France, where they receive
coddling and can play video games all day on their computer.

Skylune writes:

Sometimes, fearful Americans move to France, where they receive
coddling and can play video games all day on their computer.

Not really. Fearful people don't move at all. They just watch CNN and fear
terrorists who don't exist, and they sign away their freedoms one after
another in the hope that they'll be more secure. Eventually they end up
neither secure nor free.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Skylune writes:

Sometimes, fearful Americans move to France, where they receive
coddling and can play video games all day on their computer.

Not really. Fearful people don't move at all.

Like you


Bertie

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Unfortunately, fearful people are very easily
manipulated and controlled, and tend to make only irrational decisions
when
allowed to act on their own.

The voice of experience speaks!