NTSB: Crossfield Not Warned Of Adverse Weather

On Aug 2, 6:44 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Avweb's story, which has a link to NTSB's factual report, notes that Scott
Crossfield was not warned of adverse weather. However, he did have
access to XM Satellite Radio with a subscription to its basic weather
package. The autopsy likewise isn't suggestive of any obvious causative
medical issue (unless I'm misreading it):

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news...t_Warned_Of_Ad...

I am hoping that ADS-B will help to prevent these kinds of tragedies.
Having real-time traffic and weather data streaming into your avionics
from ground stations should make all of us safer if we know where to
look for each other in flight, and we all give severe weather the
respect and wide berth it deserves...

Dean
AeroLEDs LLC
www.aeroleds.com

wrote:
On Aug 2, 6:44 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Avweb's story, which has a link to NTSB's factual report, notes that
Scott Crossfield was not warned of adverse weather. However, he did
have access to XM Satellite Radio with a subscription to its basic
weather package. The autopsy likewise isn't suggestive of any
obvious causative medical issue (unless I'm misreading it):

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news...t_Warned_Of_Ad...

I am hoping that ADS-B will help to prevent these kinds of tragedies.
Having real-time traffic and weather data streaming into your avionics
from ground stations should make all of us safer if we know where to
look for each other in flight, and we all give severe weather the
respect and wide berth it deserves...

Dean
AeroLEDs LLC
www.aeroleds.com

While ADS-B will certainly reduce the number of WX related accidents there
is no reason to think that any significant percentage of single engine
aircraft will ever be fitted with it.

On Aug 3, 10:21 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 2, 6:44 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Avweb's story, which has a link to NTSB's factual report, notes that
Scott Crossfield was not warned of adverse weather. However, he did
have access to XM Satellite Radio with a subscription to its basic
weather package. The autopsy likewise isn't suggestive of any
obvious causative medical issue (unless I'm misreading it):

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news...t_Warned_Of_Ad...

I am hoping that ADS-B will help to prevent these kinds of tragedies.
Having real-time traffic and weather data streaming into your avionics
from ground stations should make all of us safer if we know where to
look for each other in flight, and we all give severe weather the
respect and wide berth it deserves...

Dean
AeroLEDs LLC
www.aeroleds.com

While ADS-B will certainly reduce the number of WX related accidents there
is no reason to think that any significant percentage of single engine
aircraft will ever be fitted with it.- Hide quoted text -

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I think that depends on how well the FAA does in getting a low cost
system in play like they claim they will...

Dean

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I think that depends on how well the FAA does in getting a low cost
system in play like they claim they will...

Dean


The FAA has little to do with the cost of the in-aircraft equipment other
than the requirements for certification. (Which I admit are not
insignificant) Now look at the cost of say a AM/FM/CD player that is legal
for certified aircraft
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/aicd3.php. The thing costs in
excess of $1500.

Low cost and FAA certified really can't be used in the same sentence with a
straight face.

On Aug 3, 12:17 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
wrote:

I think that depends on how well the FAA does in getting a low cost
system in play like they claim they will...

Dean

The FAA has little to do with the cost of the in-aircraft equipment other
than the requirements for certification. (Which I admit are not
insignificant) Now look at the cost of say a AM/FM/CD player that is legal
for certified aircrafthttp://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/aicd3.php. The thing costs in
excess of $1500.

Low cost and FAA certified really can't be used in the same sentence with a
straight face.

I spoke with the FAA people behind ADS-B at Oshkosh last year, and
they told me that they were working with major avionics manufacturers
to try to come up with a standard, reasonably priced (due to higher
volumes and streamlined certification process) box that could go in
light singles. Whether they can pull it off or not remains to be
seen...

I am hoping that ADS-B will help to prevent these kinds of tragedies.
Having real-time traffic and weather data streaming into your avionics
from ground stations should make all of us safer if we know where to
look for each other in flight, and we all give severe weather the
respect and wide berth it deserves...

I am confused. He could not look outside and see that weather was
bad? Technology is nice but common sense is needed more by some
pilots.

Ron Lee

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
I am hoping that ADS-B will help to prevent these kinds of tragedies.
Having real-time traffic and weather data streaming into your avionics
from ground stations should make all of us safer if we know where to
look for each other in flight, and we all give severe weather the
respect and wide berth it deserves...

I am confused. He could not look outside and see that weather was
bad? Technology is nice but common sense is needed more by some
pilots.

I don't know his case, but when flying in the clouds with imbedded
thunderstoms, you can't see the storms. Without a radar on board, I prefer
to stay VMC if there are thunderstorms in the area.

Danny Deger

Ron Lee

On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 11:23:29 -0500, "Danny Deger"
wrote:

I don't know his case, but when flying in the clouds with imbedded
thunderstoms, you can't see the storms. Without a radar on board, I prefer
to stay VMC if there are thunderstorms in the area.

That's what I was thinking.

Has anyone read this book?
http://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Checkride-Flight-Instructor-Taught/dp/0070224684/ref=sr_1_1/102-8529981-0193753?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186268573&sr=8-1

The author was vectored into an embedded thunderstorm, blowing the
door off of a Piper twin, which removed part of the tail.

Embedded t-storms do happen...