Bonanza crash caught on video

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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This all reminds me of that 182 on Youtube with the medical patient in
Africa that appears to be overweight.

I lost a friend, along with five of his relatives, when he tried to
depart Pullyaup, WA in an overweight Cherokee 6. His crash
description was exactly like the Youtube 182 and this Bo.

Also, if you look at the video (as other folks have mentioned), his liftoff
was almost near the end of the runway (looks a little past the 1000 ft
marker). If you assume that he did not do an intersection departure, he must
have been rolling for about 3,000 feet by the time he rotated.

Marco

On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
http://fox40.trb.com/

In an amazing coincidence, a Sacramento TV station was at Cameron Park
airport filming background for a story about the crash of a plane that
had departed earlier in the day and caught a second crash on video. Go
to the web site and click on "Cameron Park Plane Crash" on the right
side.

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Who in their right mind would attempt a downwind, short field take-off
at high-density altitude into rising terrain? Just thinking about it
makes me pucker. What was this guy thinking? You can tell he had a
fair amount of a tail-wind by the movement of the tree branches in the
foreground.

On Aug 31, 7:27 pm, wrote:
On Aug 31, 7:44 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:

http://fox40.trb.com/

In an amazing coincidence, a Sacramento TV station was at Cameron Park
airport filming background for a story about the crash of a plane that
had departed earlier in the day and caught a second crash on video. Go
to the web site and click on "Cameron Park Plane Crash" on the right
side.

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Who in their right mind would attempt a downwind, short field take-off
at high-density altitude into rising terrain? Just thinking about it
makes me pucker. What was this guy thinking? You can tell he had a
fair amount of a tail-wind by the movement of the tree branches in the
foreground.

Its not a shorf field by any stretch. The altitude at our airport is
1200'.

-Robert

Jay Honeck wrote:

http://fox40.trb.com/

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.

From this link I would not say that it was a high DA airport.

http://www.airnav.com/airport/O61

Downwind? I just could not tell from the vegetation moving and I
never saw a windsock.

It did appear as though he was rapidly approaching the end of pavement
and may have lifted off with minimal airspeed. Note the wings soon
after liftoff and then right before the impact with terrain.

Shouldn't 4000' be enough at that elevation for that aircraft?

Ron Lee

"Ron Lee" wrote

Downwind? I just could not tell from the vegetation moving and I
never saw a windsock.

The reporter (or was it someone that he interviewed?) said that it was
downwind.

It did appear as though he was rapidly approaching the end of pavement
and may have lifted off with minimal airspeed. Note the wings soon
after liftoff and then right before the impact with terrain.

Shouldn't 4000' be enough at that elevation for that aircraft?

He could have had full fuel and too much passenger weight. One witness said
he heard the engine miss, but you never know if that is accurate, or not.
--
Jim in NC

Jay Honeck wrote:
http://fox40.trb.com/

In an amazing coincidence, a Sacramento TV station was at Cameron Park
airport filming background for a story about the crash of a plane that
had departed earlier in the day and caught a second crash on video. Go
to the web site and click on "Cameron Park Plane Crash" on the right
side.

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

If this was the case, you can add 4 people into the weight and balance.
No telling how much fuel he had in the tanks; assuming they were full
you can add that as well. It's been a long time but 74 gals rings a bell.
Truly sad.
Dudley Henriques

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Dudley Henriques

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com...
http://fox40.trb.com/

In an amazing coincidence, a Sacramento TV station was at Cameron Park
airport filming background for a story about the crash of a plane that
had departed earlier in the day and caught a second crash on video. Go
to the web site and click on "Cameron Park Plane Crash" on the right
side.

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.
--

Looks like he could have increased his odds a bit, if he had used the rest
of the runway, and/or stayed in ground effect a bit longer.

Maxwell wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com...
http://fox40.trb.com/

In an amazing coincidence, a Sacramento TV station was at Cameron Park
airport filming background for a story about the crash of a plane that
had departed earlier in the day and caught a second crash on video. Go
to the web site and click on "Cameron Park Plane Crash" on the right
side.

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.
--

Looks like he could have increased his odds a bit, if he had used the rest
of the runway, and/or stayed in ground effect a bit longer.



No flaps!! No lift!!

On Aug 31, 9:49 pm, NoneYa wrote:

No flaps!! No lift!!- Hide quoted text -

Keep flapping.

In article , says...
Maxwell wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ps.com...
http://fox40.trb.com/

In an amazing coincidence, a Sacramento TV station was at Cameron Park
airport filming background for a story about the crash of a plane that
had departed earlier in the day and caught a second crash on video. Go
to the web site and click on "Cameron Park Plane Crash" on the right
side.

It sure looks like the pilot was taking off from a high-density
altitude airport with no flaps, downwind.
--

Looks like he could have increased his odds a bit, if he had used the rest
of the runway, and/or stayed in ground effect a bit longer.



No flaps!! No lift!!

Lots of flaps, lots of drag!!

--
Duncan