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Old November 8th 07, 02:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Sylvia Else
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Default Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation

Craig Welch wrote:
GB said:

You're absolutely right of course. I'll make a collective apology on
behalf of all members of aus.aviation right now. "Sylvia Else" is our
resident robot/troll. It has no knowledge of aviation, learned everything
it knows about the law from a trashy paperback courtroom drama novel
and wants to be a (nude) politician when it grows up.


Miss Else is, I believe, a licensed pilot.


Well, I was, some considerable time ago, but yes, his claim that I have
no knowledge of aviation has to look a bit suspect in that light.


Apparently innoent
non-sequiturs designed to provoke responses such as yours are its stock-
in-trade, it dodges all failures to agree with it by characterising them
as "ad-hominem attacks" and won't hesitate to invoke actual lawyers if
it feels suitably aggrieved by something you say. It's just a troll and
is best ignored. I apologise for failing to alert you sooner.


I'm not aware of the use of 'actual lawyers'. Can you elaborate?


I did get a will drawn up by one. I wonder if that counts.

Sylvia
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Old November 8th 07, 05:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Sylvia Else
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GB wrote:
Craig Welch wrote in
:
Miss Else is, I believe, a licensed pilot.


That is entirely compatible with the claim that I made about it's
knowledge of aviation.


You realise, presumably, that there are exams that have to be passed to
qualify for a licence, as well as a test of the ability actually to fly
a plane. It is not really tenable to hold the view that it is possible
to pass the exams and test while knowing nothing about aviation.
Therefore your position has to be that I've forgotten not just most of
what I knew when I took the exams and test, but *all* of it - every last
detail.

Seems a bit of stretch to me.

Sylvia.
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Old November 13th 07, 04:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Mxsmanic
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Sylvia Else writes:

You realise, presumably, that there are exams that have to be passed to
qualify for a licence, as well as a test of the ability actually to fly
a plane. It is not really tenable to hold the view that it is possible
to pass the exams and test while knowing nothing about aviation.


True ... but it is possible to pass the exams without knowing much about
aviation. You only have to know enough to pass the exams, and that hardly
covers even a fraction of everything there is to know about aviation.
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Old November 13th 07, 04:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Sylvia Else
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Sylvia Else writes:

You realise, presumably, that there are exams that have to be passed to
qualify for a licence, as well as a test of the ability actually to fly
a plane. It is not really tenable to hold the view that it is possible
to pass the exams and test while knowing nothing about aviation.


True ... but it is possible to pass the exams without knowing much about
aviation. You only have to know enough to pass the exams, and that hardly
covers even a fraction of everything there is to know about aviation.


That doesn't invalidate my point. GB was claiming that I know nothing
about aviation, not that I know very little.

Sylvia.
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Old November 13th 07, 05:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Sylvia Else writes:

You realise, presumably, that there are exams that have to be passed
to qualify for a licence, as well as a test of the ability actually
to fly a plane. It is not really tenable to hold the view that it is
possible to pass the exams and test while knowing nothing about
aviation.


True ... but it is possible to pass the exams without knowing much
about aviation.



Why, you try it fjukkwit?


Bertie
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Old November 8th 07, 06:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Sylvia Else
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GB wrote:
Craig Welch wrote in
:
If I understand you correctly, you are stating that licensed pilots
know nothing about aviation?


You misunderstand me completely.


Now, could you perhaps answer the question?


I'm not going to do your research for you.


Oh, no, not the old "I'm not going to do you research for you" defence!

Sylvia.
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Old November 8th 07, 05:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Hatunen
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:39:45 +1100, Sylvia Else
wrote:

GB wrote:
Craig Welch wrote in
:
If I understand you correctly, you are stating that licensed pilots
know nothing about aviation?


You misunderstand me completely.


Now, could you perhaps answer the question?


I'm not going to do your research for you.


Oh, no, not the old "I'm not going to do you research for you" defence!


Hit and run posting.

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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
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Old November 8th 07, 07:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Sylvia Else
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GB wrote:
Craig Welch wrote in
:
GB said:
Craig Welch wrote in
:
If I understand you correctly, you are stating that licensed pilots
know nothing about aviation?
You misunderstand me completely.

Well, feel free to have me understand you completely.


The Else bot may or may not be a licensed pilot, but it
demonstrates a markedly ill informed state every time
posts here. It is, of course, difficult to tell whether
it is actually ill informed or just a very active troll.


Why talk in riddles?


When talking to romans...


Now, could you perhaps answer the question?
I'm not going to do your research for you.

Research? I assumed that you knew, and could therefore answer with a
one-liner.


It is said to have


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_words
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Old November 1st 07, 02:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Arnold Sten
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Kwyjibo wrote:
"Ned" wrote in message ...
Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007

snip

Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given the
drastic changes that resulted.

Those four plane crashes were, in my opinion, not accidents, but
deliberate and pre-meditated acts of suicide and murder. To me, that
would explain why those did not make the list.
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Old November 1st 07, 11:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.travel.air,aus.aviation
Kwyjibo
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"Arnold Sten" wrote in message
. ..
Kwyjibo wrote:
"Ned" wrote in message ...
Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics | By David Noland | October 13, 2007

snip

Hmmm. No mention of September 11, 2001.
I would have thought those plane crashes would have made the list, given
the drastic changes that resulted.

Those four plane crashes were, in my opinion, not accidents, but
deliberate and pre-meditated acts of suicide and murder. To me, that would
explain why those did not make the list.


Ahh, but the title of the article is "Ten Plane *Crashes* That Changed
Aviation", not "Ten Plane *Accidents* That Changed Aviation".
No reason for them to be excluded, given the massive changes to aviation
that resulted worldwide.

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