Yet Another Cirrus SR22 Crash.

Dan Luke schrieb:

From what I have read the ballistic chute has never gone off due to a
crash, they were always pulled by an occupant.

Don't know where you read that, but it happenened in this crash and has
happened before.

And where did you read *that*?

Dan,

but it happenened in this crash


Accident analysis by acclamation?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

On Nov 30, 3:08 pm, "Neil Gould" wrote:

Gusting at up to 20 kts? That shouldn't have been much of a problem.

Another unfortunate loss, and it saddens me that the kids were victims in
this accident.

Neil

Neil, the loss was indeed unfortunate and very sad. The wind that day
was gusting from many directions and other very experienced pilots
were having difficulty landing. I have stated before that the SR22 (at
least the one that I flew) was one of the most difficult planes I have
had to land; speed control is critical in that plane. I have bounced
landings in the SR22 more than once. I was to also fly that day and
cancelled because the gusts made landing very difficult. I could
easily see how one of the gusts lifted a wing tip while trying to land
and causing the plane to flip. I am not saying that is what happened,
but I certainly can see that possibility on that day. I tried to
locate the actual Metars for that airport and other airports in the
Twin Cities for that date, but was unsuccessful.

Cary Mariash

Larry Dighera writes:

FOUR KILLED IN MINNESOTA SR22 CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196677)
A Cirrus SR22 was on its second try to land at the Faribault
airport in southern Minnesota on Sunday afternoon when it flipped
over and burst into flames by the side of the runway. All four on
board were killed. The pilot, Dr. Chester W. P. Mayo, 51, was a
descendant of one of the founders of the famed Mayo Clinic. The
others on board were his 17-year-old son and two of his friends,
who were on their way back to school after the holiday. Winds were
gusting at up to 20 knots, but officials weren't speculating as to
whether that was a factor in the crash, and also didn't say why
the pilot had aborted his first landing attempt. The airplane had
departed from Aberdeen, .D. "There's very little left [of the
airplane]," Faribault Police Chief Dan Collins told the Associated
Press

Some things never change. Apparently doctors still kill themselves in
aircraft. But there are probably pilots ruining their own health, too.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Larry Dighera writes:

FOUR KILLED IN MINNESOTA SR22 CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#196677)
A Cirrus SR22 was on its second try to land at the Faribault
airport in southern Minnesota on Sunday afternoon when it flipped
over and burst into flames by the side of the runway. All four on
board were killed. The pilot, Dr. Chester W. P. Mayo, 51, was a
descendant of one of the founders of the famed Mayo Clinic. The
others on board were his 17-year-old son and two of his friends,
who were on their way back to school after the holiday. Winds were
gusting at up to 20 knots, but officials weren't speculating as to
whether that was a factor in the crash, and also didn't say why
the pilot had aborted his first landing attempt. The airplane had
departed from Aberdeen, .D. "There's very little left [of the
airplane]," Faribault Police Chief Dan Collins told the Associated
Press

Some things never change. Apparently doctors still kill themselves in
aircraft. But there are probably pilots ruining their own health, too.


You're an idiot.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:


You're an idiot.


Bertie

And you're waaayyy too conservative!!

"ManhattanMan" wrote in news:Uc04j.42$bE7.13
@newsfe16.lga:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:


You're an idiot.


Bertie

And you're waaayyy too conservative!!




It's a shortcoming of mine.

Bertie

Since 2002, the SR22 has been involved in 17 accidents resulting
in 35 deaths, according to the NTSB...

Larry, you seem to be bashing the Cirrus with "Yet Another Cirrus SR22
Crash", but have you checked NTSB for 2007 fatal crashes with a Cirrus?
Only two this year, and first one was a ditching in the ocean (not sure why
he did not use the chute there).

And no, I'm not a Cirrus pilot (30 minutes total in one), but they have done
great in 2007. As Mr. Collins pointed out in one of his articles, take a
look at flightaware and see how they are the most popular GA aircraft in the
IFR system today. Speaks well for Cirrus in 2007.

btw, most of my time is in a A36, looking at the track record for them this
year has average, but when you throw in a loss of a family friend that lost
his life in a A36 crash this year..... the Cirrus is looking better then
the past few years.

Alan.

alank wrote:

Since 2002, the SR22 has been involved in 17 accidents resulting
in 35 deaths, according to the NTSB...


Larry, you seem to be bashing the Cirrus with "Yet Another Cirrus SR22
Crash", but have you checked NTSB for 2007 fatal crashes with a Cirrus?
Only two this year, and first one was a ditching in the ocean (not sure why
he did not use the chute there).

And no, I'm not a Cirrus pilot (30 minutes total in one), but they have done
great in 2007. As Mr. Collins pointed out in one of his articles, take a
look at flightaware and see how they are the most popular GA aircraft in the
IFR system today. Speaks well for Cirrus in 2007.

btw, most of my time is in a A36, looking at the track record for them this
year has average, but when you throw in a loss of a family friend that lost
his life in a A36 crash this year..... the Cirrus is looking better then
the past few years.

Alan.



As soon as somebody writes an article about how safe the Cirrus is he
will be more than happy to copy and paste it here.

Newps wrote in
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alank wrote:

Since 2002, the SR22 has been involved in 17 accidents resulting
in 35 deaths, according to the NTSB...


Larry, you seem to be bashing the Cirrus with "Yet Another Cirrus
SR22 Crash", but have you checked NTSB for 2007 fatal crashes with a
Cirrus? Only two this year, and first one was a ditching in the ocean
(not sure why he did not use the chute there).

And no, I'm not a Cirrus pilot (30 minutes total in one), but they
have done great in 2007. As Mr. Collins pointed out in one of his
articles, take a look at flightaware and see how they are the most
popular GA aircraft in the IFR system today. Speaks well for Cirrus
in 2007.

btw, most of my time is in a A36, looking at the track record for
them this year has average, but when you throw in a loss of a family
friend that lost his life in a A36 crash this year..... the Cirrus
is looking better then the past few years.

Alan.



As soon as somebody writes an article about how safe the Cirrus is he
will be more than happy to copy and paste it here.



"The Cirrus is safe"


There you go.


Bertie