Flight to Florida -- The Cure for Winter

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:CxhIj.100583$yE1.59010@attbi_s21:

That you think XM absolves you of the hard work of comprehending the
weather and being able to predict it's effect on your flight is
downright scary.

My, you are an absolutist, aren't you? What has made you believe
that simply because I own and use XM weather that I think that it
"absolves me of comprehending the weather"?

It doesn't, but since you obviously don;'t comprehend the weather, you
obviously do believe it.


Bertie

On Mar 31, 10:58 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
That you think XM absolves you of the hard work of comprehending the
weather and being able to predict it's effect on your flight is
downright scary.

My, you are an absolutist, aren't you? What has made you believe that
simply because I own and use XM weather that I think that it "absolves me of
comprehending the weather"?


Yeah -- I'm absolutely convinced you are relying on XM to provide you
guidance that you -- as a VFR pilot -- should not and can not rely
upon.

Yes I have a 496 with XM. I use it for IFR flight.

So please tell me which XM Data display you use to ensure you maintain
VFR conditions?




(Hint: There is none.)

"Dan" wrote ...
Every once in a while you say something that makes me think,
"Ok, this guy might get it."

And then this... Weather? Easy?
If you think XM is gonna save your ass as a VFR only pilot,.....

Dan,
Friendly advice,... relax. You're on your way to usenet burnout.

State your opinion and move along,... nobody likes a ball hog at the
dunktank.

;-)

On Mar 31, 11:20 pm, "Mike Isaksen" wrote:

State your opinion and move along,... nobody likes a ball hog at the
dunktank.


OK, so that was funny --

When are you gonna wind up and throw?

On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:20:55 GMT, Mike Isaksen wrote:

"Dan" wrote ...
Every once in a while you say something that makes me think,
"Ok, this guy might get it."

And then this... Weather? Easy?
If you think XM is gonna save your ass as a VFR only pilot,.....

Dan,
Friendly advice,... relax. You're on your way to usenet burnout.

State your opinion and move along,... nobody likes a ball hog at the
dunktank.

;-)

Mike, I apologize and take my share of the blame. Dan follows me around,
which is my fault, I call him My Little Trick Pony and Oh Boy does it
get under his fur, er skin.

http://tinyurl.com/2emark

He has promised to retrieve the newsreader he wrote in 1983. I gave him
a list of free newsservers, he will be killfiling me. Soon, all this
will be over

I appreciate your patience with My Little Trick Pony.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:l0hIj.100539$yE1.18097@attbi_s21:

Before XM weather and the kind, you had to tediously
transcribe information from airborne FSS weather breifings, HIWAS,
etc. onto a map or your head or whatever to determine where adverse
weather was. Now all the busy work is removed, so all you have to do
is look at the screen and it's all there. The flying is all the same.
Your weather avoidance piloting techniques are exactly the same. It's
just that information you use comes to you more efficiently.

It is that, and more.

When you can see the weather actually developing and changing ahead on
your route of flight, in nearly real-time, your understanding of the
weather is increased a hundred-fold over what is possible with a
pre-flight weather briefing.

Your undrstanding of weather is near zilch.

Before, we had to "paint the picture" in our heads, based on old,
static, possibly hours-old information -- and HOPE that it hadn't
changed from predicted.

Now, we know. It's that easy.

No it isn't, fjukkwit.


Bertie

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:WsXHj.45877$TT4.30055@attbi_s22:

I would NEVER have attempted that flight "pre-XM", simply because
I'd be trying to paint a picture of weather in my head from a radio
briefing (IF you could even get ahold of Flight Service), and you'd
have no idea of the
"big picture" that live XM paints so wonderfully for you.

Wait -- are you serious?

Completely. XM weather gives y

Thanks be to God it will only be a Cherokee you destroy.



Bertie

Jay Honeck wrote:
I would NEVER have attempted that flight "pre-XM", simply because I'd be
trying to paint a picture of weather in my head from a radio briefing
(IF
you could even get ahold of Flight Service), and you'd have no idea
of the
"big picture" that live XM paints so wonderfully for you.

Wait -- are you serious?

Completely. XM weather gives you a weather picture that is absolutely
unparalleled in GA aircraft. Before we had it, we would have stayed in
Pensacola. After we had it, the flight from Pensacola to St. Pete was
completely routine.

Jay, you need some remedial weather analysis and flight planning
training. I've never had XM weather (OK, one flight with a friend with
a 496) and get along fine without it. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to
have it, but it isn't worth the cost to me. It gives a little more
convenience, but I can get the same and even more information from
several sources (DUAT, intellicast, weather channel, ADDS, etc., when it
comes to preflight. Enroute I do fine with my eyes, ASOS/AWOS,
listening to ATC and FSS. I see XM as a much more convenient tool for
inflight than for preflight and can't imagine making go/no-go decisions
simply because I have XM weather.


Matt

Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Jay Honeck wrote:
I would NEVER have attempted that flight "pre-XM", simply because
I'd be trying to paint a picture of weather in my head from a radio
briefing (IF
you could even get ahold of Flight Service), and you'd have no idea
of the
"big picture" that live XM paints so wonderfully for you.

Wait -- are you serious?

Completely. XM weather gives you a weather picture that is
absolutely unparalleled in GA aircraft. Before we had it, we would
have stayed in Pensacola. After we had it, the flight from Pensacola
to St. Pete was completely routine.

Jay, you need some remedial weather analysis and flight planning
training.

Guess that means getting back into his go kart come MSFS sim and a
couple of views of "Captains of the Clouds" before he gets to go flying
again...

Bertie

Completely. XM weather gives you a weather picture that is absolutely
unparalleled in GA aircraft. Before we had it, we would have stayed in
Pensacola. After we had it, the flight from Pensacola to St. Pete was
completely routine.

Jay, you need some remedial weather analysis and flight planning training.
I've never had XM weather (OK, one flight with a friend with a 496) and
get along fine without it.

I'm glad for that, Matt -- but this is not the conclusion Mary and I have
made.

BTW: Your point about using XM for preflight analysis isn't relevant, since
no one uses it for that. The strength of having live weather on board is
for in-flight decision making, not pre-flight briefings.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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