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Old May 5th 07, 06:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Margy Natalie" wrote

Does anyone know if you are flying an LSA on a PP can you reposition the
gear in flight? Now, all I need is a plane, a seaplane rating and
probably a tail wheel endorsement. :-).


Either they just changed the wording (or interpretation) of the
prepositional gear for LSA amphibians, or they are about to; I don't
remember which, but I have read it in the last month.
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Old May 5th 07, 06:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Morgans" wrote

prepositional gear for LSA amphibians


Damn spell check, used with fat fingers; I let it change repositional to
prepositional when I didn't want it to.
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Old May 5th 07, 07:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Margy Natalie wrote:

This is where I think LSA will shine. I've got my PP (no instrument
rating) and Ron's got his PP with IA. We've got the Navion, nice, fly
fast, get there, comfy airplane. At 15 - 16 GPH it should be fast, etc.
But let's face it, it's not a putz around weekend plane.



Why can't you putz around with it locally? Around the local area I can
run my Bo at 45% power on 8 gph indicating 145-150 mph. You'll never
come out ahead adding an LSA with those numbers.
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Old May 5th 07, 07:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I think they call it TBR-as in time between replacement. Not sure how many
hours. I think they're shooting for 3000, but right now I think they're
under 2000 hours.

mike

"Blueskies" wrote in message
et...

As it is now there is no such thing as an overhaul on those Thielert
engines. Apparently run them to 'tbo' and throw
them away...




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Old May 5th 07, 07:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Newps" wrote

Why can't you putz around with it locally? Around the local area I can
run my Bo at 45% power on 8 gph indicating 145-150 mph. You'll never come
out ahead adding an LSA with those numbers.


'Cause the Navion wants to sink, every time you try to land it on the water?
g,d&r
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Old May 6th 07, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Newps wrote:


Margy Natalie wrote:

This is where I think LSA will shine. I've got my PP (no instrument
rating) and Ron's got his PP with IA. We've got the Navion, nice, fly
fast, get there, comfy airplane. At 15 - 16 GPH it should be fast,
etc. But let's face it, it's not a putz around weekend plane.




Why can't you putz around with it locally? Around the local area I can
run my Bo at 45% power on 8 gph indicating 145-150 mph. You'll never
come out ahead adding an LSA with those numbers.

145-150 isn't putzing. I want slow, lazy, weekend hanging out. Powered
Parachute would be fun too, but those can't take any wind at all. The
FIB looks like fun as well. I'd prefer nothing between me and the air.

Margy
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Old May 6th 07, 04:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On May 5, 4:30 am, "Morgans" wrote:

I wouldn't want to talk you out of anything, but light sport flying is
better flying than no flying! g
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Jim in NC


I have a PPL, but it's a big 10-4 on that! It could be the thing that
saves all of small GA flying. As was said, some of the LSA planes are
awesome, and I am sure I would love to have some of them. It's a good
thing to know that as long as I have a DL, I can fly.

Bud

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Old May 6th 07, 05:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Morgans wrote:
"Larry Stimely" wrote
No argument, but what if I'm out somewhere on a weekend, it gets dark and
I can't get home?


Many of the new light sport aircraft have lights for night operation. Of
course, you would need a PP to fly past 30 minutes after sunset, but you can
still fly the equipped LSA.

Also, in California, there's always the issue of the mountains.


Yes, so you fly the passes. You can fly higher as necessary to get over and
though passes, if I remember correctly, and stay a thousand feet above
terrain. Many of the higher performance light sport planes have the
capability to fly pretty high, especially if equipped with the turbo Rotax
engine, as many are.

Maybe I don't need the increased flexibility of the Private ticket but I
suppose it only makes financial sense to find out.


I just may do that over the weekend.


Some do need the extra capability, but you can always get the light sport
pilot ticket, then upgrade later, if you find you need to.

I wouldn't want to talk you out of anything, but light sport flying is
better flying than no flying! g


Yeah, I just got back from flying the Evektor Sportstar and I'm pretty
well sold. My wife and I aren't rich and I just can't see blowing all
that money to train in a plane that runs 100LL at 13-14 gph.

I went next door and bought a Los Angeles section and VFR chart, and saw
where if I decided to fly to Vegas or Laughlin...I'd need my private
ticket in pretty short order. The mountains NE of Los Angeles are
easily above 10000 feet and that would be a tough deal in Light Sport.

What's this about a turbocharged Rotax? How about repositionable gear?

Also, does anyone know what the TBO for the Rotax engine is and what it
costs to overhaul them? My instructor/Light Sport sales manager didn't
know.

LS
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Old May 6th 07, 06:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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In rec.aviation.piloting Larry Stimely wrote:
Morgans wrote:


Yeah, I just got back from flying the Evektor Sportstar and I'm pretty
well sold. My wife and I aren't rich and I just can't see blowing all
that money to train in a plane that runs 100LL at 13-14 gph.


I went next door and bought a Los Angeles section and VFR chart, and saw
where if I decided to fly to Vegas or Laughlin...I'd need my private
ticket in pretty short order. The mountains NE of Los Angeles are
easily above 10000 feet and that would be a tough deal in Light Sport.


So you go east through the Cajon pass.

The highest point in the pass is about 4000 feet.

At VFR altitudes, that's 5500 and 6500. All the light sports will do
that.

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Old May 6th 07, 05:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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On 05/05/07 17:30, Margy Natalie wrote:
Newps wrote:

Why can't you putz around with it locally? Around the local area I can
run my Bo at 45% power on 8 gph indicating 145-150 mph. You'll never
come out ahead adding an LSA with those numbers.

145-150 isn't putzing. I want slow, lazy, weekend hanging out. Powered
Parachute would be fun too, but those can't take any wind at all. The
FIB looks like fun as well. I'd prefer nothing between me and the air.


Then have a look at the Quicksilver ultralight. This was the first ultralight
I trained in (actually, I trained in the model MX-II, which was a two-seat
fat UL trainer).

Quite honestly, I've never had as much fun flying that I did in that
airplane er... vehicle ;-)


Margy




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