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  #131  
Old June 6th 08, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.bertie-the-bunyip
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"Daryl Hunt" wrote in
:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any
mention of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are
actually harmless if left to themselves.


OK.



Bertie
  #132  
Old June 6th 08, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any mention
of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are actually harmless if
left to themselves.


"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:6ZX1k.2009$nD3.1321
@newsfe15.lga:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...


Yes it is, and they would have al despised a netkkkop like you too.



Bertie


or a lame assed wannabe troll like Squirty

If you only knew how wrong you are.

But then you wouldn't be you, wouldja?


Bertie


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
  #133  
Old June 6th 08, 02:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Daryl Hunt[_3_]
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People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any mention
of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are actually harmless if
left to themselves.

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
.. .
"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in news:uWU1k.3449$QI2.1059
@newsfe23.lga:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
Larry Dighera wrote in
:

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 15:03:08 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote in :

In fact
last time I was there I flew out what is now John wayne and Jim Arness
was there on the day flying his DeHavilland Beaver. in fact every
second airplane was owned by a movie star according to my host..

That must have prior to Frank Gifford Tallman III's last flight on
April 16, 1978.* By that time, the aircraft of the Tallmantz Aviation
Movieland of the Air Museum had been auctioned. The auction took place
on May 29th, 1968** after Paul Mantz met his fate during the filming
of "Flight of the Phoenix" starring James Stewart and Hardy Krüger in
July 1965 in the desert west of Yuma, Arizona.


You're an idiot.



How would you know lamer. You totally lack a point of reference.




Guess again fjukktard.



Bertie


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  #134  
Old June 6th 08, 02:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose
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"Daryl Hunt" wrote in
:

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any
mention of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are
actually harmless if left to themselves.




I don;t think they'll like being referred to as harmless..


Bertie

  #135  
Old June 6th 08, 04:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Daryl Hunt" wrote in
:

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any
mention of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are
actually harmless if left to themselves.




I don;t think they'll like being referred to as harmless..


How do you know that?

Are you implying "they" would commit bodily injury to other posters?

Or are you implying "they" would commit property crime against other
posters?

Or are you just implying "they" will post anything they damn well please on
any newsgroup they desire?
  #136  
Old June 6th 08, 04:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Jim Logajan wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Daryl Hunt" wrote in
:

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any
mention of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are
actually harmless if left to themselves.




I don;t think they'll like being referred to as harmless..


How do you know that?


I don't. That's why I qualified the statement with " I don't think"


Are you implying "they" would commit bodily injury to other posters?



Nope.



Or are you implying "they" would commit property crime against other
posters?


Nope.

Or are you just implying "they" will post anything they damn well
please on any newsgroup they desire?



I was implying no such thing. But now you mention it, I reckon they'll
do exactly that.


Bertie


  #137  
Old June 6th 08, 05:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose
Jim Logajan
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Daryl Hunt" wrote in
:

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any
mention of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are
actually harmless if left to themselves.

I don;t think they'll like being referred to as harmless..


How do you know that?


I don't. That's why I qualified the statement with " I don't think"

Are you implying "they" would commit bodily injury to other posters?


Nope.

Or are you implying "they" would commit property crime against other
posters?


Nope.

Or are you just implying "they" will post anything they damn well
please on any newsgroup they desire?


I was implying no such thing. But now you mention it, I reckon they'll
do exactly that.


That's fine. Whatever floats their kayaks. As long as they get guidance
hints from your helpful crossposts (with, as you claim, the occasional
assist from me it seems) on where to cross-post to and who to attack, I'm
sure "they"'ll live happy contented lives.

But you know, compared to real-life thuggery (or surgery, like I had
recently), anything that happens on Usenet is only as harmful as one
allows it to be. Usenet is optional. What happens here is mostly
harmless.

Oh yeah - actually on topic for RAP (well, RAH actually) I don't suppose
your Hatz is going to be done in time to make it to Oshkosh this year? I
see a group of Hatz owners/builders are hoping to get as many as 40 (if
they can) there since this year is the 40th anniversary of the first
flight of the Hatz.
  #138  
Old June 6th 08, 05:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Jim Logajan wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Daryl Hunt" wrote in
:

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any
mention of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are
actually harmless if left to themselves.

I don;t think they'll like being referred to as harmless..

How do you know that?


I don't. That's why I qualified the statement with " I don't think"

Are you implying "they" would commit bodily injury to other posters?


Nope.

Or are you implying "they" would commit property crime against other
posters?


Nope.

Or are you just implying "they" will post anything they damn well
please on any newsgroup they desire?


I was implying no such thing. But now you mention it, I reckon
they'll do exactly that.


That's fine. Whatever floats their kayaks. As long as they get
guidance hints from your helpful crossposts (with, as you claim, the
occasional assist from me it seems) on where to cross-post to and who
to attack, I'm sure "they"'ll live happy contented lives.


Well, the vamp pretty mucjh explained it. they're not interested in
people just getting on with it and neither am I except of course the
usual conversation about flying. But a kook like Maxie is just to good
not to share...

But you know, compared to real-life thuggery (or surgery, like I had
recently), anything that happens on Usenet is only as harmful as one
allows it to be. Usenet is optional. What happens here is mostly
harmless.


Well exactly.

Oh yeah - actually on topic for RAP (well, RAH actually) I don't
suppose your Hatz is going to be done in time to make it to Oshkosh
this year? I see a group of Hatz owners/builders are hoping to get as
many as 40 (if they can) there since this year is the 40th anniversary
of the first flight of the Hatz.


Nah, hardly done anything to it since the Citabria has been on the
horizon. I'm hoping to get back at it once we have that up and flying. I
doubt I'd fly it to OSH anyway. I never was crazy about state fairs. I
used to go quite a lot, though...


Bertie


Bertie

  #139  
Old June 6th 08, 08:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:01:56 -0500, Jim Logajan did the cha-cha, and
screamed:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Daryl Hunt" wrote:

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any
mention of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are
actually harmless if left to themselves.


I don;t think they'll like being referred to as harmless..


How do you know that?

Are you implying "they" would commit bodily injury to other posters?

Or are you implying "they" would commit property crime against other
posters?

Or are you just implying "they" will post anything they damn well please
on any newsgroup they desire?


The latter of those would be accurate...

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"In fact, Jesus said something about that, I do believe. He said, "Knock
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let's all get some wine and party like it's 2012." Then again, he never
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  #140  
Old June 6th 08, 09:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.fan.karl-malden.nose
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On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 23:00:02 -0500, Jim Logajan did the cha-cha, and
screamed:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Jim Logajan wrote:
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Daryl Hunt" wrote:

People, if you are going to answer any of the AUKk00ks, remove any
mention of any NG with the word "kook" in it. The AUKk00ks are
actually harmless if left to themselves.

I don;t think they'll like being referred to as harmless..

How do you know that?


I don't. That's why I qualified the statement with " I don't think"

Are you implying "they" would commit bodily injury to other posters?


Nope.

Or are you implying "they" would commit property crime against other
posters?


Nope.

Or are you just implying "they" will post anything they damn well
please on any newsgroup they desire?


I was implying no such thing. But now you mention it, I reckon they'll
do exactly that.


That's fine. Whatever floats their kayaks. As long as they get guidance
hints from your helpful crossposts (with, as you claim, the occasional
assist from me it seems) on where to cross-post to and who to attack, I'm
sure "they"'ll live happy contented lives.


Bertie is one of AUK's many kook-hunters, and he does a fine job for Teh
Empire of MEOW.

But you know, compared to real-life thuggery (or surgery, like I had
recently), anything that happens on Usenet is only as harmful as one
allows it to be. Usenet is optional. What happens here is mostly harmless.


Nine out of ten kooks agree that the above paragraph is "ABSOLUTELY NOT
TRUE!!!!!!!1!!" The other one gibbers about a variety of topics, and is
rarely comprehensible even to other kooks.

Oh yeah - actually on topic for RAP (well, RAH actually) I don't suppose
your Hatz is going to be done in time to make it to Oshkosh this year? I
see a group of Hatz owners/builders are hoping to get as many as 40 (if
they can) there since this year is the 40th anniversary of the first
flight of the Hatz.


waits for Maxwell to start screaming that "Squirty" is just a t0rll,
and no right-thinking poster can or should treat him as anything but

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Message-ID: 31

WINNERS! Usenet Kook Awards, February 2007
Message-ID: 1

WINNERS! Usenet Kook Awards, January 2007 MID:
70

"6. Who is a net.giggler?" -- Bloxy's "Monkay", that's who. Message-ID:


"'I find this genetic sequence all the way down the evolutionary
ladder,' he says. 'The major significance of this protein is that it may
be a communication line between the nucleus and the mitochondria.'" --
Andrew B. Chung, from
http://gtalumni.org/Publications/mag...n91/chung.html

"Pot...kettle...so black it picks cotton." -- But Alex "Dink" Cain isn't
racist at all, oh no. Not him. Why, some of his best friends are porch
monkeys. I'll bet. Message-ID:

"You think I don't know this? What gives you the right to speak as if
you have authority over me? You have none. I like his use of the words
'wanton woman'. They are biblical. Maybe there is some hope for k man
after all. You? There is no hope for you at all you freak of nature. Go
back to the hole you came out of." -- Atlanta Olympiada Kane "knows"
Kadaitcha Man was referring to me, but addressed him as though he was
referring to himself, then foamed all over me, in Message-ID:


"No effort at all c*cksucking you, b1tch." -- At last, the Monkey-man
comes out of the closet, in MID: aXkth.3535$QE6.1902@trnddc02

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can't starve if they're at the beach? Because they can always eat the
sand which is there." -- Spam Witch sammich, from The Kingdom of
Loathing

http://www.runescape.com/
No one expects the Fannish Inquisition!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cabal_...y_Pretzel/join
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Pretzel

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Jockey doesn't know the meaning of "TMI". MID:


"What are marijuana tablets?"

"When logic and proportion
Have fallen softly dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's 'off with her head!'
Remember what the dormouse said:
'Feed your head
Feed your head
Feed your head'"
-- "White Rabbit", Jefferson Airplane

I own "James C Cracked is God!!!":
MID: .com

"Chips on you dud, you got bugged for being near me, Viruses transmit
that way you know." -- Blooey: Master of the Autoflame. Message-ID:


"The nonsense screeds you compose and post to usenet lack any kind of
coherent and rational meaning whatsoever, and are composed of random
bits and pieces stolen from mythology, science fiction, religion, comic
books, etc., placed into a blender, and the switch turned to the highest
setting.
About every other screed has droppings of death threats, racial
bigotry, laughably false prophesies of gloom and doom, and inane
attempts to extort money. These bland, meaningless, pulpy messes are
then trowled into usenet; identical or nearly identical screeds are
repeated ad nauseum." -- Art Deco had to clean up bits of Warhol for
days after using the Hammer on him

"Q: How many Bush administration officials does it take to change a
light bulb?
A: None. There is no need to change anything. We made the right decision
to stick with that light bulb. People who say that it is burned out are
giving aid and encouragement to the Forces of Darkness." -- Anon.

"Outlaw amateur assassins!" -- Chiun

"Property is theft."
-- P. J. Proudhon
"Property is liberty."
-- P. J. Proudhon
"Property is impossible."
-- P. J. Proudhon

"Etymology:
Argumentum ad Septicus : argument to putrefaction. Derived from Septicum
Argumentum : putrefaction of argument.

"Septic \Sep"tic\, Septical \Sep"tic*al\
a. [L. septicus to make putrid: cf. F. septique.]
Having power to promote putrefaction. Of or relating to or
caused by putrefaction." -- Kadaitcha Man, indirectly to
Donald "Skeptic"/"Septic" Alford, in MID:

"I never fail to be amazing" -- Looney Maroon for September 2006 nominee
William Barwell's ego knows no bounds. MID:


"Red meat won't hurt you. Fuzzy, blue-green meat will."
-- Zog the etc., in alt.discordia (correct
as needed)

"may you live to whatever age you'd like to." -- Dave Hillstrom,
in alt.discordia

"We are most nearly ourselves when we achieve the seriousness of the
child at play." -- Heraclitus

"And thats another mistake on your part. Your 'playing' games on usenet,
and I'm not playing...It has nothing to do with impressing you, it has
more to do with making sure you have the education you'll need to debate.
The debate is no fun for me if you are mentally incapable of it. I'm
giving you an opportunity to educate yourself. That's all." -- A trashy
former virus-writer turned Outer Filth doesn't know if he's playing or
working, in MID: om

"I am incapable of original thoughts" -- Ctrl¤/Alt¤/Del¤ has an honest
moment, in MID:

"But now the end is near. Now Mark Foley comes along and is making
almost all liberal dreams come true and seriously, I'm sorry for it.
See, I believe in karma. I believe what comes around goes around and I
know full well that it's just bad juju to wish such a level of turmoil
and ill upon other humans, warmongering gay-hating maladroits or no, and
that the real path of enlightenment is paved with forgiveness and
progress and white-hot love and turning the other cheek and scotch.

"In fact, Jesus said something about that, I do believe. He said, "Knock
it off already with the warmongering and the hating of each other and
let's all get some wine and party like it's 2012." Then again, he never
saw Karl Rove stab the nation with the dull ice pick of bogus fear. He
never heard George W. Bush describe brutal war and the death of tens of
thousands as "just a comma" in world history.

"Check that. Maybe I'm not so sorry after all." -- Mark Morford,
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