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Dudley Henriques wrote:
I've been reading these reports for years. There's nothing new in them. There is no doubt an ejection seat will improve a mid air situation, and some pilots do survive, but in the safety community we don't treat a mid air as a survivable situation when discussing them in the flight safety context. What is so difficult to understand about this? If you wish to quote mid airs where pilots have survived, by all means be my guest. I'm aware that pilots have survived mid airs. That wasn't my point. DH What was the movie with the T-33? The pilot told his back seat pax tha if he saw he was going to have a mid-air, he would position his aircraft so the belly was against the other aircraft. The pax asked why and the response was "So I can still eject." |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 00:16:30 GMT, "Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in et:: "Larry Dighera" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:57:52 GMT, "Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in . net:: Although some mid airs are survivable, and incidents can be easily found and quoted, ... Yep. Here are a couple of mo http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...13X33340&key=1 http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...26X00109&key=2 Did you notice that all three I cited are civil/military? In each case the military pilot survived, and in one case the civil pilot did too. I've been reading these reports for years. There's nothing new in them. That sort of depends on how many years you've been reading them. I've already said fifty odd but apparently you missed it . If one looks at military/civil MACs that occurred in the CONUS, one finds that in each case the (5) military pilots walked away subsequent to surviving the initial impact. In only one case the civil pilot landed safely. In that case a military fighter collided with a glider, and the NTSB found the glider pilot to be at fault despite his having the right of way. Just be advised that in the flight safety community, (and I'm saying this again for the THIRD time for you) we don't consider discussing mid air collisions as a survivable condition, and as such, ALL instruction, and ALL prevention education is geared completely toward AVOIDING the collision. A VITAL factor in this education is the recognition that a mid air should be considered unsurvivable. It should be apparent to anyone reading what I have said on this issue that my statement "everybody dies in a mid air" was meant in the flight safety context and NOT in the literal sense you have chosen to challenge! So if it pleases you to counter my statement by quoting case files of mid airs that involved survival, I'll just let it be that you and I see this issue through a different pair of lenses and let it go at that . Dudley Henriques |
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