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Old July 19th 11, 04:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Hagbard Celine
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It can be done and it can work quite well. My glider has no TE probe
and is equipped with an old Peschges VP4E NAV vario which is set up
for electronic compensation. In order for electronic TE to work
properly though the pitot and static systems installation must have
little to no inherent error. Not all glider designs meet this
criteria. If you go back and look at the Johnson flight tests in
Soaring magazine you'll find that quite a few gliders have large
errors in the static system which can put the airspeed indication
several knots out (dig up the article on the Standard Cirrus for a
good example of this).
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Old July 19th 11, 05:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bill D
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On Jul 18, 8:59*pm, Hagbard Celine wrote:
It can be done and it can work quite well. My glider has no TE probe
and is equipped with an old Peschges VP4E NAV vario which is set up
for electronic compensation. In order for electronic TE to work
properly though the pitot and static systems installation must have
little to no inherent error. Not all glider designs meet this
criteria. If you go back and look at the Johnson flight tests in
Soaring magazine you'll find that quite a few gliders have large
errors in the static system which can put the airspeed indication
several knots out (dig up the article on the Standard Cirrus for a
good example of this).


If the position error is known, why can't the vario computer use a
"lookup table' to produce calibrated airspeed?
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Old July 19th 11, 05:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
mike
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Default Electronic total energy vario

On Jul 18, 9:34*pm, Bill D wrote:
On Jul 18, 8:59*pm, Hagbard Celine wrote:

It can be done and it can work quite well. My glider has no TE probe
and is equipped with an old Peschges VP4E NAV vario which is set up
for electronic compensation. In order for electronic TE to work
properly though the pitot and static systems installation must have
little to no inherent error. Not all glider designs meet this
criteria. If you go back and look at the Johnson flight tests in
Soaring magazine you'll find that quite a few gliders have large
errors in the static system which can put the airspeed indication
several knots out (dig up the article on the Standard Cirrus for a
good example of this).


If the position error is known, why can't the vario computer use a
"lookup table' to produce calibrated airspeed?


Bill,

On the current Westerboer, tweaks can be simply done (manually), to
get the correct total energy. Probably on others also. The 1020 works/
worked well in both a RS-15 and Mini Nimbus- both with questionable
static locations.

Mike
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Old July 20th 11, 12:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tim Mara
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Default Electronic total energy vario

I have Electronic TE variometers.
please see my website
LX Navigation, Westerborer, Cambridge all have Electronic TE capability
for simple single 57mm Electronic TE check out Westerborer VW1020
thanks
tim
Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com


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Hi Gang
The electronic TE vario should be possible to implement with modern
electronics today. I have googled this item but have not been able to
find one. Maybe it doesn't exist for whatever reasons. It would sure
simplify some of the complex TE probe systems that stick out of the
empennages of many gliders. Any ideas or thoughts?
Dave

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