The Spruce Goosed by the ADA?

"Rob Perkins" wrote in message
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The old Air Force One airplanes at Wright-Patterson can never be
h-capped accessable. The passages left to museumgoers is only two feet
wide, after all the plexiglass protective walls are accounted for.

In spite of this I think the Air Force is still letting people go
through the planes.

There are plenty of examples of places that are accessible by the public,
but not to all handicapped people. I'm no expert on disability law, but
it's obvious that the ADA has some sort of allowance for situations where
accessibility is not compatible with practicality or history. It's not the
case that simply being accessible by the public is in and of itself
sufficient for requiring handicapped access under the ADA.

It's possible the Evergreen Museum actually does believe that the ADA
requires the Spruce Goose to be made handicapped-accessible, but I doubt
that the law actually does. There are too many examples of inaccessible
museum displays, aircraft and otherwaise, for that to actually be the case.
You mentioned the AF1 displays at Wright-Patterson, and the AF1 display at
the Museum of Flight in Seattle has the same characteristic, as do many of
the displays at the Pima Air Museum in Tucson (including their AF1 planes).

Someone needs to get the folks at Evergreen straightened out.

Pete

"Peter Duniho" wrote:

It's possible the Evergreen Museum actually does believe that the ADA
requires the Spruce Goose to be made handicapped-accessible, but I doubt
that the law actually does.

Well, y'know, Pete, what can you say?

It's Oregon! :-)

Rob

In article , Rob Perkins
writes:

In spite of this I think the Air Force is still letting people go
through the planes.

Of course they are. After all the government is exempt from such silly
goverment edicts. After all, if the government had to abide by all the silly
edicts that it imposed on the rest of us, they'd get less done than they do
now.

Such is the logical end of such efforts at "fairness" in society by the
socialist lot. Keep lowering standards nearer to the lowest common
denominator, until finally it's at zero.

John

JohnMcGrew wrote:

After all, if the government had to abide by all the silly edicts that
it imposed on the rest of us, they'd get less done than they do now.

As Martha would say (now more than ever) "that would be a good thing."

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Someone posted on the Pacific Northwest Flying forum that they had flown
to
McMinnville, OR to tour the Spruce Goose. What they found out was that
since
the entire airplane is not handicapped accessible the public was no longer
being allowed to go through it. The only view of the interior now
available
is from a glass box inside the fuselage. If the airplane is not made
accessible to everybody then nobody can see it. Of course, modifying the
airplane to make it accessible would probably destroy its value as an
artifact.

Damn...Howard Hughes was such a insensitive putz.

I went to the Evergreen Aviation Museum across from the McMinnville airport
on 4 Jun 02. It had just recently been opened to the public. The museum was
terrific and the Hughes HK-1 "Spruce Goose" awesome. I was very happy to see
that the entire seaplane is on display -- no clipped wings or tail. I asked
if I could go inside but was told that because it was not accessible to
everyone no one except museum personnel could go inside -- ADA rules. There
were a couple large openings on the port side, one just in front of and the
other aligned with the leading edge of the wing, so I could see part of the
interior.

Piloting content: I flew my 182 into McMinnville at the end of a great
flight around the Olympic Peninsula from Boeing Field.

Not to be missed if you're in the area!

Jon

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...
Someone posted on the Pacific Northwest Flying forum that they had flown
to
McMinnville, OR to tour the Spruce Goose. What they found out was that
since
the entire airplane is not handicapped accessible the public was no longer
being allowed to go through it. The only view of the interior now
available
is from a glass box inside the fuselage. If the airplane is not made
accessible to everybody then nobody can see it. Of course, modifying the
airplane to make it accessible would probably destroy its value as an
artifact.

Evergreen Museum is attempting to get around the rule by claiming that
registered members are not the general public, so at least their members
should still be allowed to tour the plane.

--
Christopher J. Campbell
World Famous Flight Instructor
Port Orchard, WA


If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals.

Did they have the SR-71 out yet


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
...
Someone posted on the Pacific Northwest Flying forum that they had flown
to
McMinnville, OR to tour the Spruce Goose. What they found out was that
since
the entire airplane is not handicapped accessible the public was no longer
being allowed to go through it. The only view of the interior now
available
is from a glass box inside the fuselage. If the airplane is not made
accessible to everybody then nobody can see it. Of course, modifying the
airplane to make it accessible would probably destroy its value as an
artifact.

Evergreen Museum is attempting to get around the rule by claiming that
registered members are not the general public, so at least their members
should still be allowed to tour the plane.

--
Christopher J. Campbell
World Famous Flight Instructor
Port Orchard, WA


If you go around beating the Bush, don't complain if you rile the animals.