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Old August 19th 04, 05:40 PM
Juan Jimenez
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Matt Whiting wrote in
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That's because you are not an engineer and haven't a clue. Almost all
common building materials can be used to build a structure of a given
strength. It is just that some materials are more cost effective in
certain circumstances. A safe room built from 10" thick oak timbers
would be quite strong. It is just that few people know how to
properly build with timber these days and reinforced concrete is easy
and cheap.
Nothing to do with strength, it is economics.

Matt


Tell me something I don't know, Matt. It's called "taking the cheapest
route and not worrying about the consequences." And it's precisely what I
am addressing. You say I don't have a clue? Tell you what, tell me, when
was the last time you saw a safe room built out of 10" thick oak timbers in
your average wood home?

Juan

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Old August 17th 04, 12:01 AM
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"Vaughn" wrote in message
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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I have always wondered why people would be stupid enough to build out of
wood after the last hurricane takes the wooden home and enlarges it to a
few acres maybe an inch tall.


Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden structure
will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete
structure. For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old
homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to do
with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete.


The concrete homes are cooler also...


Did you know that they even make airplanes out of wood? (aviation content)

Vaughn



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Old August 18th 04, 12:27 AM
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Blueskies wrote:

"Vaughn" wrote in message
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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I have always wondered why people would be stupid enough to build out of
wood after the last hurricane takes the wooden home and enlarges it to a
few acres maybe an inch tall.


Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden structure
will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete
structure. For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old
homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to do
with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete.



The concrete homes are cooler also...


Until they get warmed up and then they stay hotter.


Matt

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Old August 18th 04, 12:53 AM
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The concrete homes are cooler also...

Until they get warmed up and then they stay hotter.


Its called thermal mass.
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Old August 28th 04, 07:26 PM
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Blueskies wrote:
The concrete homes are cooler also...


Until they get warmed up and then they stay hotter.


Who in their right mind would build an uninsulated concrete home in a
tropical (or freezing) environment? The Monolithic Dome technology utilizes
polyurethane insulation (the most efficient insulation generally available).
Then they're 50% - 70% more energy efficient.
http://www.monolithic.com/plan_design/rfairy/
http://www.monolithic.com/plan_design/polyurethane/


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Old August 17th 04, 08:20 PM
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"Vaughn" wrote in message
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Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden

structure
will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete
structure.


I'm not talking about cinder blocks. Reinforced concrete is by FAR the
strongest building material generally available and in the shape of a dome
it's much stronger still. Given the same forces a stick home will be a pile
of splinters while the dome is unscathed. The numbers have been done; it's
not a mystery. http://www.monolithic.com/plan_desig...ive/index.html

For proof, take a trip to Key West and check out some of those old
homes. The biggest advantage of concrete homes in Florida has nothing to

do
with hurricanes; termites don't eat concrete.


It has everything to do with hurricanes. And fire. And floods. And rot.


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Old August 18th 04, 12:34 AM
Matt Whiting
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geo wrote:

"Vaughn" wrote in message
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Wood is an amazing building material. A properly designed wooden


structure

will stand up to a hurricane just as well as a properly designed concrete
structure.



I'm not talking about cinder blocks. Reinforced concrete is by FAR the
strongest building material generally available and in the shape of a dome
it's much stronger still. Given the same forces a stick home will be a pile
of splinters while the dome is unscathed. The numbers have been done; it's
not a mystery. http://www.monolithic.com/plan_desig...ive/index.html


Define strongest? Tensile strength? Compressive strength? Stiffness?


Matt

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Old August 23rd 04, 05:27 AM
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geo wrote:
I'm not talking about cinder blocks. Reinforced concrete is by FAR the
strongest building material generally available and in the shape of a

dome
it's much stronger still. Given the same forces a stick home will be a

pile
of splinters while the dome is unscathed. The numbers have been done;

it's
not a mystery. http://www.monolithic.com/plan_desig...ive/index.html


"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Define strongest? Tensile strength? Compressive strength? Stiffness?


Look it up. It's on the website.


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Old August 19th 04, 05:52 PM
Juan Jimenez
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"geo" wrote in news:80sUc.3789$de4.1561@trndny07:

I'm not talking about cinder blocks. Reinforced concrete is by FAR the
strongest building material generally available and in the shape of a
dome it's much stronger still. Given the same forces a stick home will
be a pile of splinters while the dome is unscathed. The numbers have
been done; it's not a mystery.
http://www.monolithic.com/plan_desig...ive/index.html



I saw a really cool documentary the other day showing a company building
concrete domes by inflating a bladder, waiting for the concrete to dry and
then deflating the bladder. It was really impressive.

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Old August 16th 04, 12:59 PM
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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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I have always wondered why people would be stupid enough to build out of
wood after the last hurricane takes the wooden home and enlarges it to a
few acres maybe an inch tall.

What's even more amazing is how many people in Punta Gorda stayed in their
RV's and TRAILER HOMES just YARDS from the water while facing a Cat 4

storm
coming straight for them. I heard that many refused to leave because
shelters would not take animals. ???


Because the media fixated on the idea that the hurricane was going to hit
Tampa, despite information from the NWS and the other weather services that
Tampa was just a best guess.


Somebody explain to me why the Shrub's brother thinks he has the right to
stick his damn nose in the business of people having to deal with spouses
turned into vegetables who never wanted to live that way...

...but doesn't deal with body-temperature IQ's who refuse to leave
hurricane paths by empowering law enforcement to handcuff and take them to
safety after a mandatory evac order.


Because it is a free country, and one freedom it to take risks that would be
unacceptable to others. Some folks even think it is unacceptably risky to
fly small airplanes.



"geo" wrote in news:mVVTc.5287$Zh3.2475@trndny02:

There's a simple solution: build HURRICANE PROOF BUILDINGS

http://www.monolithic.com/gallery/co...ars/index.html

"Richard RIley" wrote in message
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The latest storm tracks show Charlie set to skim Pinellas County
around noon tomorrow. That's not good news for Lakeland, since it
will be hit by the north east corner of the storm. Lakeland will get
the worst rain and winds.

I'll have a candle lit for all the folks there.




 




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