It was really close...

John Gaquin wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message


Officials Weighed Shooting at Errant Plane
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago

As a wayward Cessna


What really amazes me is that there will apparently be no certificate action
taken against these two nimrods.
Huh? Where did you get that? The FAA is planning on revoking the
certificate of the PIC. The student had no legal standing during
the flight (and evidentally was the only reason they managed not
to get shot out of the air).

Ron Natalie wrote:

John Gaquin wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message


Officials Weighed Shooting at Errant Plane
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago

As a wayward Cessna



What really amazes me is that there will apparently be no certificate
action taken against these two nimrods.

Huh? Where did you get that? The FAA is planning on revoking the
certificate of the PIC. The student had no legal standing during
the flight (and evidentally was the only reason they managed not
to get shot out of the air).

Yes, I heard that he's losing his certificate after 35 years of flying.
That is a shame, but probably justified in this case. The article
said he got lost, but even so, how hard would it be to know that you
need to fly west, not east when in that area?


Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message news:a2nhe.2413

said he got lost, but even so, how hard would it be to know that you need
to fly west, not east when in that area?

More to the point, going from PA to NC, how hard is it to know that the DC
Metro area lies across your path? ....and that it just might be an area to
avoid? Even if he did get lost initially, how hard is it to recognize DC
and stay the hell away? After many years, I've concluded that the single
greatest weakness in both cars and small airplanes is the simple inability
of certain people to just pay attention to what the hell is going on.

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message news:4285f68b$0$28822

Huh? Where did you get that?

I heard a news report a couple of days ago to the effect that the government
planned to take no action against the pair. Obviously erroneous.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

I heard a news report a couple of days ago to the effect that the
government
planned to take no action against the pair. Obviously erroneous.


Probably referring to TSA, FBI, Secret Service etc. FAA will take action in
the next few days, I am sure.

--
Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict....

I bet you will or have done something just as stupid in an airplane.

Give these guys a break. The weren't terrorists, I don't care if they did
violate airspace.


"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

Officials Weighed Shooting at Errant Plane
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 37 minutes ago

As a wayward Cessna

What really amazes me is that there will apparently be no certificate
action taken against these two nimrods. Not only did they barge right
into probably the best known restricted/prohibited airspace in the world,
but, according to one of the scrambled F16 pilots, they continued on this
errant course for several minutes while the interceptors were crossing
paths and ejecting flares. What in God's name did they think was going
on? Just how stupid do you have to be?

"John Lakesford" wrote in message
...
I bet you will or have done something just as stupid in an airplane.

Give these guys a break. The weren't terrorists, I don't care if they did
violate airspace.

Strange reaction, if you are a pilot, or are concerned about the rights of
general aviation. What happened is hard to comprehend, IMHO.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:

What happened is hard to comprehend, IMHO.

Easy enough for me to comprehend just as soon as I learned the pilot is 70. My
grandfather got sort of wifty in his late 60s, and one day when he was 70 he
took the car down "for an oil change" and didn't come back. The family alerted
the police, and they found him the next day halfway across Carolina. He "got
lost." Time to sell the Chrysler and revoke his driving license (actually, the
family knew that it was way past time for the latter).

So. Time to sell the Cessna and revoke his pilot certificate.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.

"George Patterson" wrote

So. Time to sell the Cessna and revoke his pilot certificate.

If senility is the cause, yeah, I know what you mean. My grandpa did almost
exactly the same thin, with getting lost and keeping going.

We will see, if that is the cause.
--
Jim in NC

George, this 75 yr old, strongly objects! You can't go on age alone. I
don't wear glasses yet, and can fly my 182 up and down the west coast
from border to border legally, in and out of big and small airports.
Landing/taking off from LAX to a rancher friends driveway ( gravel ).
You sound like the French rental car guy in Nice who said I was too old
to rent a car. That really ****ed me off but since I couldn't speak
French, I couldn't express myself adequately. IF or when I do
something stupid like the DC intrusion, I will give up my ticket without
it being suspended. Carefull about broad statements, they might bite you
in the end later, no pun! North West Mustang
ps I did rent a car, I just went down the road aways to Italy where they
were much nicer.