What soaring foods do you eat?

"Eric Greenwell" wrote in message
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How long do unopened bars last on the shelf? I'm assuming leaving them
in the glider during the hot months is not a good idea.

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

If you read their web site, they have a "consume by date" on the individual
package. I examined one that had somehow escaped such consumption and had
resided in a pocket of my survival vest for a year. It was still edible
though a bit dry and shriveled. At ~ 1$ each, they're a cheap lunch.

Bill Daniels

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How long do unopened bars last on the shelf? I'm assuming leaving them
in the glider during the hot months is not a good idea.

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Washington State
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If you read their web site, they have a "consume by date" on the individual
package. I examined one that had somehow escaped such consumption and had
resided in a pocket of my survival vest for a year. It was still edible
though a bit dry and shriveled. At ~ 1$ each, they're a cheap lunch.

I'll stop at REI and pick up a few to try. They seem well suited to our
purposes, and 4 months is plenty long enough.

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

I am confused about the responses to this message so far.

Perhaps if you are simply wafting around the sky to make your 5 hour or
are "leisurely" goin' somewhere there will be time for nourishment. But
most of my significant cross country is in a contest setting. And I can
tell you the there are precious few times in a 5-6 hour contest flight
when the concentration on the clouds, other gliders, speed maximization
tasks, thermal optimization, evaluating lift streets, etc. allow for a
break in concentration to open a package and eat something. I even, at
times, feel the concentration load is such that I will defer peeing or
drinking from the water tube until I get to the next flight regime.

Wonderingly,

Larry Goddard
"01" USA



"ContestID67" wrote in message
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I have been trying to determine what foods work well for extended cross
country flying. It needs to taste good, give you energy, easy to eat
in flight, not too messy, filling, doesn't melt, etc.

What does everyone use?

- John

Larry,

If you neglect to eat, drink, etc. you are at risk of beginning to
loose your ability to focus on all those other tasks you are talking
about. Most people need food every 2 to 4 hours to maintain peak
concentration and we have all seen the effects of dehydration too many
times. I have lost at least one friend to that here in the west.

That is why most of us find food that we can eat with little effort. I
tend to use soft granola bars (the hard ones dehydrate me and are
messy), I like apples because they tend to settle my stomach and
provide moisture as well.


Tim

Tim,

I completely agree with you about the hydration issue. I did not mean
to imply that I did not drink. Actually, depending on the day, I drink
quite a bit... with the concomitant peeing. I simply meant to make the
point that proper concentration is not always enhanced by diverting
attention to water spouts or ziplock baggies full of granola, or peeing,
for that matter.

Another issue that I was alluding to is that of "level of
concentration". It is very easy to be driving down the interstate at 75
mph, negotiating traffic, talking on the cellphone, and, when we reach
our destination in one piece, to say "Man, I am a multitasking dude!
Driving, talking, negotiating deals... and I am obviously safe... see, I
made here without a scratch!"

The fact is that I may have simply had the minimum of concentration
necessary to negotiate the driving task successfully. When it comes to
contest and serious cross country, "adequate concentration" is going to
give you mediocre results at best.

I can hear it now... "But darlin', I got the bowl of ice cream because I
need to concentrate on the football game... and it's been 2 hours since
dinner time!" :-)

Larry




"ttaylor at cc.usu.edu" wrote in message
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Larry,

If you neglect to eat, drink, etc. you are at risk of beginning to
loose your ability to focus on all those other tasks you are talking
about. Most people need food every 2 to 4 hours to maintain peak
concentration and we have all seen the effects of dehydration too many
times. I have lost at least one friend to that here in the west.

That is why most of us find food that we can eat with little effort. I
tend to use soft granola bars (the hard ones dehydrate me and are
messy), I like apples because they tend to settle my stomach and
provide moisture as well.


Tim

Even during contest flying or "serious" x-country, there is always time to
eat, drink and pee.

--
Bert Willing

ASW20 "TW"


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Tim,

I completely agree with you about the hydration issue. I did not mean to
imply that I did not drink. Actually, depending on the day, I drink quite
a bit... with the concomitant peeing. I simply meant to make the point
that proper concentration is not always enhanced by diverting attention to
water spouts or ziplock baggies full of granola, or peeing, for that
matter.

Another issue that I was alluding to is that of "level of concentration".
It is very easy to be driving down the interstate at 75 mph, negotiating
traffic, talking on the cellphone, and, when we reach our destination in
one piece, to say "Man, I am a multitasking dude! Driving, talking,
negotiating deals... and I am obviously safe... see, I made here without a
scratch!"

The fact is that I may have simply had the minimum of concentration
necessary to negotiate the driving task successfully. When it comes to
contest and serious cross country, "adequate concentration" is going to
give you mediocre results at best.

I can hear it now... "But darlin', I got the bowl of ice cream because I
need to concentrate on the football game... and it's been 2 hours since
dinner time!" :-)

Larry




"ttaylor at cc.usu.edu" wrote in message
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Larry,

If you neglect to eat, drink, etc. you are at risk of beginning to
loose your ability to focus on all those other tasks you are talking
about. Most people need food every 2 to 4 hours to maintain peak
concentration and we have all seen the effects of dehydration too many
times. I have lost at least one friend to that here in the west.

That is why most of us find food that we can eat with little effort. I
tend to use soft granola bars (the hard ones dehydrate me and are
messy), I like apples because they tend to settle my stomach and
provide moisture as well.


Tim

01-- Zero One wrote:
I am confused about the responses to this message so far.

Perhaps if you are simply wafting around the sky to make your 5 hour or
are "leisurely" goin' somewhere there will be time for nourishment.

No, but my recreational and record attempt flights generally require
less concentration than a contest flight.

But
most of my significant cross country is in a contest setting. And I can
tell you the there are precious few times in a 5-6 hour contest flight
when the concentration on the clouds, other gliders, speed maximization
tasks, thermal optimization, evaluating lift streets, etc. allow for a
break in concentration to open a package and eat something.

In your situation, it makes sense, but that is not the case for me, even
in contests. Clearly, you are flying in different contests than I do.
It's been a long time since I flew in a contest that had a 5 or 6 hour
task; generally, the regionals are about 3 hours, and the Nationals
(some years ago) were more like 4 hours. In the olden days, 5 or 6 hours
was more common.

My non-contest flights are significantly longer than my contest tasks,
so I do take food along: a handful of mixed nuts, some dried fruit
(raisins, cranberries, cherries), a few strips of beef jerky, and a
high-fiber muffin).

I even, at
times, feel the concentration load is such that I will defer peeing or
drinking from the water tube until I get to the next flight regime.

Same here, but there are times during almost all my flights where I am
just cruising for 5-15 minutes towards the only good choice, which is
plenty of time eat something. Perhaps you are so busy because of where
you fly, perhaps you are better at seeing things that need to be
analyzed, or perhaps you need to relax a little .

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

I was turned on to string cheese by friend (Dr)Jim Skydell a few years ago.
The ones that come in neat little individual packages you can just peal back
like a banana. I will eat one in about an each hour.It offers a lot of
protein in a small package and it is easy to store. PeterK
"ContestID67" wrote in message
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I have been trying to determine what foods work well for extended cross
country flying. It needs to taste good, give you energy, easy to eat
in flight, not too messy, filling, doesn't melt, etc.

What does everyone use?

- John

I put a raw carrot and some dried fruit (usually apricots),
and some cheese in baggies in the side pocket. Not
messy, and without salt. I've tried power bars, trail
mix, apples, candy, sandwiches, etc. All are messy.

Here's a trick if you can make it work in your crowded
space (I'm a small guy). The large Camelbaks have
a pocket in the back and a large mouth cap for the
water. Put ice in the Camelbak and your food in that
back pocket. It will keep the food cold and much less
messy. As the ice melts you can drink it. With the
right proportions of ice and water you can have a cool
drink most of the day and keep the food cool and firm.
Works for chocolate, even.


At 03:00 19 May 2005, wrote:
Hi Bill, Excellent suggestion - I have been using
the meal packs
for over 20 years. I crewed for Bruce Brockhoff and
Brad Edwards
from Australia in our 15m Nationals at Hobbs in 91
- I suggested
to Brad that he try the meal packs - he tried them
and liked them
a lot - and won the 15m World Championships at Uvalde
using meal
packs the whole time. I used the meal packs during
my glider flying
at Bitterwasser, Namibia (Africa)- so far I have flown
23 flights of
1000 km or more during the past 8 seasons - nearly
all with meal
packs as my mid day meal. Again, great suggestion
for the ras
readers. Regards, Ralph Woodward

Bill Daniels wrote:
'ContestID67' wrote in message
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I have been trying to determine what foods work well
for extended
cross
country flying. It needs to taste good, give you
energy, easy to
eat
in flight, not too messy, filling, doesn't melt,
etc.

What does everyone use?

- John

Great question.

I have found Pemmican concentrated food bars to be
great.
http://www.mealpack.com/

They last a months while sealed and don't crumble
or make my fingers
sticky
when I eat them. I keep two or three in my survival
vest. They
taste good
too.

Bill Daniels

I'd go for the Burger King Enormous Omelet Sandwich, maybe two of them......
but seriously......everyone has great suggestions, mostly if you can digest
straw.....the one thing you really don't want to do (hence my suggestion ;o)
is change radically anything in your diet just for the day you go
soaring.....you're possibly going to, especially with all the fibrous
suggestions I've seen here, end up landing sooner....and running toward the
head if it's not already part of your daily ritual...so.eat what you might
normally....no sense in grazing just cause you're in a
glider!......drink....and pee....
tim
Wings & Wheels
www.wingsandwheels.com


"ContestID67" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have been trying to determine what foods work well for extended cross
country flying. It needs to taste good, give you energy, easy to eat
in flight, not too messy, filling, doesn't melt, etc.

What does everyone use?

- John