Another IFR "oops"

Ryan Ferguson wrote:

Dunno. Plate says Montgomery, I'd expect to talk to Montgomery about the
approach. It's that simple.

Why do you expect such perfection from the FAA? Do you expect the same from the
IRS or the CIA? ;-)

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 16:10:27 -0500, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


The interesting thing is BHM's comment that I "...should have asked
Montgomery for that one." How was I to know that? BHM is named on plates as
the approach facility for EET. There's no ATIS at EET. What should I have
done to find out that BHM couldn't give me the RNAV 33 approach?

No, I don't think so. I tried that once flying down to LA (actually
John Wayne/Orange Cty), thinking that it would be nice to get a
certain approach since I felt I was quite close, but they didn't care
for it. Little did I know I was going to be vectored around and handed
over three more times within the LA sector, so there was no way to
know when to request a certain approach. It was IMC at that time, and
considering the volume of traffic at Orange Cty it would have been
moot anyway.

Dan:

I see you fly out of BFM. Do you know Bobby Mooring the mixmaster mosquito
abatement man & resident flying instructor at BFM? I was wonder how he is
doing these days. I think he calls himself Azalea Air...

When you get a chance you might want to fly up to Monroeville for your $100
hamburger and and ask if Harper Lee (Author of To Kill a Mockingbird) is
still signing copies of her book. One of her relatives runs the FBO there
and in the past was able to get pilots who dropped in signed copies of her
books...Never know, it might be worth something someday...I got me one last
time I was up there.

Greg Arnold

--
I've learned that it is what I do not know that I fear, and I strive,
outwardly from pride, inwardly from the knowledge that the unknown is
what will finally kill me, to know all there is to be known about my
airplane. I will never die. -Richard Bach

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...
Another one of those things I guess I should have been ready for sneaked
up
on me this morning.

We were going from BFM to EET (Shelby County Airport, Alabaster, Alabama)
and the ceiling was right at minimums for the RNAV 33 approach, and below
minimums for the VOR-A. Naturally, I wanted the RNAV 33.

There's no ATIS at EET, so no particular approach was being advertised.
When
Montgomery approach handed us off to Birmingham, BHM approach told me to
expect the VOR-A. I asked him "...any chance we can do the RNAV 33?"

"Nope. It's not in my airspace. You should have asked Montgomery for that
one. Standy by and I'll see if they'll take you back."

We got handed back to MGM, but by the time MGM was ready for us, we were
right on top of the IAF (IXUSE) and 1,900' high. Not a serious problem,
really, because by then I had slowed to 90 kts, but it made the first part
of the approach more rushed than it needed to be. Nevertheless, we made it
in just under the cloud deck

The interesting thing is BHM's comment that I "...should have asked
Montgomery for that one." How was I to know that? BHM is named on plates
as
the approach facility for EET. There's no ATIS at EET. What should I have
done to find out that BHM couldn't give me the RNAV 33 approach?
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

"gpa" wrote:
I see you fly out of BFM. Do you know Bobby Mooring the mixmaster
mosquito
abatement man & resident flying instructor at BFM? I was wonder how he is
doing these days. I think he calls himself Azalea Air...

Yep, I know Bobby well - he owns the other 172RG on the field. He gave me my
BFR-before-last. He's the local FAA Safety Counsellor. Bobby seems to be
doing fine.

When you get a chance you might want to fly up to Monroeville for your
$100
hamburger and and ask if Harper Lee (Author of To Kill a Mockingbird) is
still signing copies of her book. One of her relatives runs the FBO there
and in the past was able to get pilots who dropped in signed copies of her
books...Never know, it might be worth something someday...I got me one
last
time I was up there.

Love the book, but I only have a worn out paperback. It would be a thrill to
find a hard cover copy and fly it up there for her to sign. Like most pilots
who trained around Mobile, I've been to MVC many times.
--
Dan
C172RG at BFM