Where is approach good about multiple approaches and clearances in the air?

I practice approaches at SPI, Springfield, IL. It is a training
facility for new controllers. After virtually all sessions, after I ask
for clearance back home, the controller will thank me for doing the
approaches with them that day.

Also, at the start of each session, I offer to do a radar surveillance
approach if any of the controllers need one for currency. They are
usually happy to hear that since often times the offer is accepted.

Hank
Henry A. Spellman
Comanche N5903P

Peter R. wrote:

Fly on up to Binghamton or Elmira, located in southern central NY state.
Both ATC groups sincerely appreciate the work and will tell you so on the
frequency. I often fly down to their airspace from Syracuse, NY, to
practice approaches because of the fact.

If you go, go IFR since I was told that IFR numbers count towards their
airport activity and help justify their jobs. One of this newsgroups
controllers will correct me if I am wrong, but in the meantime I like to
think I am helping these good folks out, even if it is a mere drop in the
bucket.

Henry A. Spellman wrote:
I practice approaches at SPI, Springfield, IL. It is a training
facility for new controllers.

No such thing. All facilities are training facilities because all
facilities get new controllers from time to time.


After virtually all sessions, after I ask
for clearance back home, the controller will thank me for doing the
approaches with them that day.

I do that too, we all should.


Also, at the start of each session, I offer to do a radar surveillance
approach if any of the controllers need one for currency. They are
usually happy to hear that since often times the offer is accepted.

Not many of those facilities left anymore.

Newps wrote:


After virtually all sessions, after I ask
for clearance back home, the controller will thank me for doing the
approaches with them that day.

I do that too, we all should.

I obviously fly in the wrong places; I've never been thank.

- Andrew

I guess it's a function of how busy they are. I practice approaches in the
Long Island area of NY and I'm usually trying to squeeze my calls inbetween
the flights into JFK or ISP. Almost always accommodating given their traffic
level but I've also never been thanked. As a matter of fact, the pilots in
our area almost always thank the controllers!

Hey Newps, care to share if and/or how the FAA tracks the number of
approaches you work? I'm curious.

Marco


"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Newps wrote:


After virtually all sessions, after I ask
for clearance back home, the controller will thank me for doing the
approaches with them that day.

I do that too, we all should.

I obviously fly in the wrong places; I've never been thank.

- Andrew





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It's not surprising that you don't get clearances "on the go" from TTN
because approaches there are controlled by Philly. In my experience,
they're usually too busy to give such clearances. Someone suggested
RDG. Good suggestion because they're very accommodating. There is a
female controller there who is top notch: Clear, concise, aways on top
of everything going on, and not grumpy if you make a few minor
mistakes. Makes one wonder why she hasn't been bumped up to a higher
profile job. The cafe there is decent so you might want to land rather
than get your clearance in the air. Another suggestion is ACY. They
are typically really good and I've gotten clearances on the go from
them. Farther away is LNS (controlled by Harrisburg App), and if you
don't even want to fuss with clearances in VFR conditions you can fly
ILS approaches at MSV. Another person suggested AVP. Another great ATC
crew. Bottom line: don't expect a lot of flexibility from busy Bravo
controllers, except in the occasional quiet times between airline
arrival/departure gluts.

Andrew Gideon wrote in message gonline.com...
I'm no freight dog or corporate pilot with dozens of approaches to minimums
each day. For me, as with many GA pilots I expect, maintaining *real*
currency involves explicit practice.

That's fine; I enjoy it. But I'd like to try some new places.

The issue is that I'd like to try some new places that are friendly about
multiple approaches. For example, at both ABE and STW I've almost never
had a problem terminating an approach in a T&G or low approach and heading
out immediately for another (or picking up a clearance for the next leg).
I've tried TTN, but they always insist upon my landing and picking up my
next clearance on the ground.

It took several tries at TTN before I got the message, but in it eventually
sankgrin.

So what airports are more like ABE and STW, where approach is willing to
provide a clearance in the air and permit multiple approaches? Of course,
I'm interested in the area around my "home airport" (CDW in Northern NJ),
but I expect that others are interested in the same thing elsewhere.

Thanks...
- Andrew

Good points, there is an airline "rush hour" 7-10 am and 4-8 pm or so.
Don't expect much in the way of VFR services from busy commercial
airports during these times.

(airbourne56) wrote in message . com...
It's not surprising that you don't get clearances "on the go" from TTN
because approaches there are controlled by Philly. In my experience,
they're usually too busy to give such clearances. Someone suggested
RDG. Good suggestion because they're very accommodating. There is a
female controller there who is top notch: Clear, concise, aways on top
of everything going on, and not grumpy if you make a few minor
mistakes. Makes one wonder why she hasn't been bumped up to a higher
profile job. The cafe there is decent so you might want to land rather
than get your clearance in the air. Another suggestion is ACY. They
are typically really good and I've gotten clearances on the go from
them. Farther away is LNS (controlled by Harrisburg App), and if you
don't even want to fuss with clearances in VFR conditions you can fly
ILS approaches at MSV. Another person suggested AVP. Another great ATC
crew. Bottom line: don't expect a lot of flexibility from busy Bravo
controllers, except in the occasional quiet times between airline
arrival/departure gluts.

Andrew Gideon wrote in message gonline.com...
I'm no freight dog or corporate pilot with dozens of approaches to minimums
each day. For me, as with many GA pilots I expect, maintaining *real*
currency involves explicit practice.

That's fine; I enjoy it. But I'd like to try some new places.

The issue is that I'd like to try some new places that are friendly about
multiple approaches. For example, at both ABE and STW I've almost never
had a problem terminating an approach in a T&G or low approach and heading
out immediately for another (or picking up a clearance for the next leg).
I've tried TTN, but they always insist upon my landing and picking up my
next clearance on the ground.

It took several tries at TTN before I got the message, but in it eventually
sankgrin.

So what airports are more like ABE and STW, where approach is willing to
provide a clearance in the air and permit multiple approaches? Of course,
I'm interested in the area around my "home airport" (CDW in Northern NJ),
but I expect that others are interested in the same thing elsewhere.

Thanks...
- Andrew

I've done some practice approaches at TTN, VFR and IFR and never had to
land. Although they seemed a little confused about my IFR clearance a
couple of times. Aren't they a private control tower? Maybe that has
something to do with it?