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I use "yproxy". It will cost $17 and it is well worth it. I used to hate
it when someone posted in yenc. "Steffensen" wrote in message k... yEmc seems to be some sort of crypto - how do U see it? |
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:09:44 GMT, "J.F."
wrote: I use "yproxy". It will cost $17 and it is well worth it. I used to hate it when someone posted in yenc. "Steffensen" wrote in message . dk... yEmc seems to be some sort of crypto - how do U see it? This is sure to be unpopular, but I've seeing "no Yenc" comments - rules, sometimes - on newsgroups for at least 10 years or so. That was chiefly because people didn't want to pay up for it (or even, to pay at all). But the Yenc compression has very real advantages in terms of enhanced resolution but with reduced file size; for newsgroup users who download binaries, in fact, it's a real service. 10 years on and the world has gone from Windows Diddly Squat to Vista. I think we should embrace the future. In my case, I paid something minimal for a proper version of Agent (www.forteinc.com) and have never given it a second thought in all the years since. It's even more encouraging to see that there are free Yenc decoders available now. Andy |
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There are free encoders. I bought yproxy because it had some features i
liked. You are right about the enhanced resolution. Large files opened easily. I would like to add that I am not an advocate for yenc. Have a great day! "AWem" wrote in message ... On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:09:44 GMT, "J.F." wrote: I use "yproxy". It will cost $17 and it is well worth it. I used to hate it when someone posted in yenc. "Steffensen" wrote in message .dk... yEmc seems to be some sort of crypto - how do U see it? This is sure to be unpopular, but I've seeing "no Yenc" comments - rules, sometimes - on newsgroups for at least 10 years or so. That was chiefly because people didn't want to pay up for it (or even, to pay at all). But the Yenc compression has very real advantages in terms of enhanced resolution but with reduced file size; for newsgroup users who download binaries, in fact, it's a real service. 10 years on and the world has gone from Windows Diddly Squat to Vista. I think we should embrace the future. In my case, I paid something minimal for a proper version of Agent (www.forteinc.com) and have never given it a second thought in all the years since. It's even more encouraging to see that there are free Yenc decoders available now. Andy |
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AWem wrote in
: But the Yenc compression has very real advantages in terms of enhanced resolution but with reduced file size; for newsgroup users who download binaries, in fact, it's a real service. Andy Here's a jpg of size 263Kb - no yEnc. -- ________________________________________ .. |
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AWem wrote in
: But the Yenc compression has very real advantages in terms of enhanced resolution but with reduced file size; for newsgroup users who download binaries, in fact, it's a real service. Andy And the same one Yenc'd to see how different it is. -- ________________________________________ .. |
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This file was encoded with the new yEnc encoding scheme, designed to save bandwidth by dramatically reducing the 30%+ overhead incurred by UU and Base64. For more info, see http://www.yenc.org/ |
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In article ,
"RustYŠ" wrote: This file was encoded with the new yEnc encoding scheme, designed to save bandwidth by dramatically reducing the 30%+ overhead incurred by UU and Base64. For more info, see http://www.yenc.org/ =ybegin line=128 size=270112 name=7832-test.jpg Rusty that was a good illustration of yEnc! (Nice photo too.) I get so very tired of people whining about those who use yEnc. -- One is always considered mad when one perfects something that others can not grasp.*- Ed Wood |
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"RustYŠ" schreef in bericht . 163... This file was encoded with the new yEnc encoding scheme, designed to save bandwidth by dramatically reducing the 30%+ overhead incurred by UU and Base64. For more info, see http://www.yenc.org/ This file was NOT encoded with the new yEnc.... Result 64Kb |
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"Willem Van der Voort" wrote in
: "RustYŠ" schreef in bericht . 163... This file was encoded with the new yEnc encoding scheme, designed to save bandwidth by dramatically reducing the 30%+ overhead incurred by UU and Base64. For more info, see http://www.yenc.org/ This file was NOT encoded with the new yEnc.... Result 64Kb JPG is a 'lossy' image compression scheme. yEnc is a lossless file transmission protocol. They are not the same. Tranmission of binary files on Usenet requires encoding as the Usenet protocol - NNTP - does not allow for the straight transmission of 8 bit data, instead requiring it be recoded to a 7 bit ASCII format using a method called 'MIME'. This expands the size of the ~transmitted~ file by a rather hefty amount. Once it is decoded on the receiving computer it is once again the original file as sent by the poster. yEnc is a different, more efficient form of transmission encoding that, like MIME, has no effect on the data in the original file. What it does is use bandwidth more effectively by using fewer bytes. This may not be so noticeable with small files like image JPGs, but it certainly helps with larger files such as video and disc images, legal or otherwise. Rusty's example showed how much transmission bandwidth can be saved for the same ~identical~ JPG image using MIME vs yEnc. Willem's example showed how easily you can corrupt a beautiful image with JPG artifacts by over-compressing it. I use the free XNews newsreader to follow this group. It handles yEnc transparently with no problems. I have used yProxy in the past with similar trouble free results. The main complaint I hear about yEnc is the MS Outlook Express does not support it 'out of the box', and a lot of folks still use OE for newsreading. A sizeable percentage of this group have requested that others please use MIME rather than yEnc when posting, most of the regulars have agreed to do this out of courtesy. I find it a little annoying when a new poster gets flamed immediately for posting in yEnc rather than being asked politely if they will use MIME - it is just a bit rude to blow someone arse over teacups out the door when they arrive with new images to share, dontchathink? My two cents, and I expect change! Bob ^,,^ |
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