ethanol question

"Dick" ...

THis subject has been covered north, south, east, west, up, down, port, and
starboard in these newsgroups over the last two years. Please do your
research and investigation into prior threads before starting a new one.
Most folks who have posted good stuff just shine on somebody that isn't
willing to do the work before asking a very old question.

Jim

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Dick" wrote in message
news:S084k.10872$kW2.67@trnddc01...
Recently my gas station placed stickers on the pumps warning it could
contain up to 10% ethanol.

My ride is an experimental built in 1997 with a C-85 always run on mogas.

Quick research indicates 3 concerns:
1-loosens debris inside the fuel system affecting filters.
2-mixes more readily with water (hydroscopic) but can experience "phase
separation" during climbs causing water to overload filter/sediment bowls.
3-can deteriorate composites, rubbers and plastics causing
leaks/breakages.


Leaning towards more frequent gascolator inspections for 1 and 3, but
unsure on overloading a sediment bowl....

I'm wondering how others are addressing these concerns.

Thanks, Dick

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
m...
"Dick" ...

THis subject has been covered north, south, east, west, up, down, port,
and starboard in these newsgroups over the last two years. Please do your
research and investigation into prior threads before starting a new one.
Most folks who have posted good stuff just shine on somebody that isn't
willing to do the work before asking a very old question.


What's the harm. It's not like the daily message count is difficult to
manage.

You never can tell when there might be some new thinking or information, and
you won't find that in the archives.

Jim,
What's the problem?? I did do some net research but couldn't get any
download this morning from the EAA site for whatever reason and apparently
made the mistake to ask here what others are doing.

Sorry,
Dick Ripper
Lakeland, Florida

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
m...
"Dick" ...

THis subject has been covered north, south, east, west, up, down, port,
and starboard in these newsgroups over the last two years. Please do your
research and investigation into prior threads before starting a new one.
Most folks who have posted good stuff just shine on somebody that isn't
willing to do the work before asking a very old question.

Jim

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


"Dick" wrote in message
news:S084k.10872$kW2.67@trnddc01...
Recently my gas station placed stickers on the pumps warning it could
contain up to 10% ethanol.

My ride is an experimental built in 1997 with a C-85 always run on mogas.

Quick research indicates 3 concerns:
1-loosens debris inside the fuel system affecting filters.
2-mixes more readily with water (hydroscopic) but can experience "phase
separation" during climbs causing water to overload filter/sediment
bowls.
3-can deteriorate composites, rubbers and plastics causing
leaks/breakages.


Leaning towards more frequent gascolator inspections for 1 and 3, but
unsure on overloading a sediment bowl....

I'm wondering how others are addressing these concerns.

Thanks, Dick

"Dick" wrote in message
news:Hre4k.2$2_.1@trnddc01...
| Jim,
| What's the problem?? I did do some net research but couldn't get any
| download this morning from the EAA site for whatever reason and
apparently
| made the mistake to ask here what others are doing.
|
| Sorry,
| Dick Ripper
| Lakeland, Florida
|
| "RST Engineering" wrote in message
| m...
| "Dick" ...
|
| THis subject has been covered north, south, east, west, up, down,
port,
| and starboard in these newsgroups over the last two years. Please
do your
| research and investigation into prior threads before starting a new
one.
| Most folks who have posted good stuff just shine on somebody that
isn't
| willing to do the work before asking a very old question.
|
| Jim
|
| --
| "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a
thought
| without accepting it."
| --Aristotle
|
|
| "Dick" wrote in message
| news:S084k.10872$kW2.67@trnddc01...
| Recently my gas station placed stickers on the pumps warning it
could
| contain up to 10% ethanol.
|
| My ride is an experimental built in 1997 with a C-85 always run on
mogas.
|
| Quick research indicates 3 concerns:
| 1-loosens debris inside the fuel system affecting filters.
| 2-mixes more readily with water (hydroscopic) but can experience
"phase
| separation" during climbs causing water to overload filter/sediment
| bowls.
| 3-can deteriorate composites, rubbers and plastics causing
| leaks/breakages.
|
|
| Leaning towards more frequent gascolator inspections for 1 and 3,
but
| unsure on overloading a sediment bowl....
|
| I'm wondering how others are addressing these concerns.
|
| Thanks, Dick
|
|
|

Here is an STC for Ethanol 100% for a C-152.
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Gu...B?OpenDocument
Forum comments on it.
http://www.pacificnorthwestflying.co...=1689.msg13664

Greg Poe using E85 in his aerobatic plane.
http://ethanolproducer.com/article.jsp?article_id=4274

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"Dick" wrote in message news:Hre4k.2$2_.1@trnddc01...
Jim,
What's the problem?? I did do some net research but couldn't get any
download this morning from the EAA site for whatever reason and apparently
made the mistake to ask here what others are doing.

Do a google search, limiting it to this group. You should be able to come
up with several threads, with more information that you could come up with
from any one source like the EAA site.
--
Jim in NC

My thanks to the group for helping. This morning I was able to access
www.EAA.org/autofuel and am on the way to developing my plan of action.

Dick

"RST Engineering" wrote

Most folks who have posted good stuff " just shine on somebody"
that isn't willing

"just shine on somebody" ???

I've never heard that expression before. Must be a Californie-i-a" type of
thing! g
--
Jim in NC

"Dick" wrote in message news:S084k.10872$kW2.67@trnddc01...
Recently my gas station placed stickers on the pumps warning it could
contain up to 10% ethanol.

My ride is an experimental built in 1997 with a C-85 always run on mogas.

Quick research indicates 3 concerns:
1-loosens debris inside the fuel system affecting filters.
2-mixes more readily with water (hydroscopic) but can experience "phase
separation" during climbs causing water to overload filter/sediment bowls.
3-can deteriorate composites, rubbers and plastics causing leaks/breakages.


Leaning towards more frequent gascolator inspections for 1 and 3, but
unsure on overloading a sediment bowl....

I'm wondering how others are addressing these concerns.

Thanks, Dick



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