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"Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... Usama bin Laden claims Spain as part of Islam and has said so many times. Well he claims the whole world for a future muslim theocracy too for that matter. Grenada Spain is part of Islam's glory old days. The Califate is an important symbol in bin Laden's message. Well, someone needs to explain to Osama and the rest of AQ and their affiliates and wannabes that their dream of a Caliphiate ain't gonna happen, and that history is replete with failed dreams of glory and ideology: Naziism, Fascism, and Communism all come to mind. Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... ... Usama bin Laden claims Spain as part of Islam and has said so many times. Well he claims the whole world for a future muslim theocracy too for that matter. Grenada Spain is part of Islam's glory old days. The Califate is an important symbol in bin Laden's message. Yes, and for the bin laden types, it is an major defeat, that for them, could have well just been yesterday that happened. As evidenced by the AQ statement regarding settling old accounts with Spain. If voters in any western country think that a less confrontational policy towards the groups such as AQ/bin laden will make them safer, they are sorely mistaken. I am not pointing to any specific events like Spain, but in general, in how it appears some Europeans would rather appease or not cooperate with the US/UK, for fear of making the terrorists more mad. I don't think Europe understands that none of that matters to al Qaeda. The only way to deal with Al-Queda and their affiliates and wannabe organizations is to kill them, period. Make membership in the organization very unattractive by making sure the message gets out that if you join AQ, your life is forfeit. Find the remaining leadership (whereever they are) and kill them without mercy or quarter. Then go after the mid-level operatives and either bring them in: either in cuffs or in a body bag. The foot soldiers and financiers are next, along with shutting down and keeping shut down front companies and money laundering operations. Once AQ is done away with, go after the affiliates and wannabe organizations and individuals and mete out the same treatment. If the bleeding hearts want to bleed about this, they can go ahead and bleed. Meanwhile, a dirty job which needs doing is going to get done. Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! |
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"Matt Wiser" wrote in message news:4059be65$1@bg2.... "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... ... Usama bin Laden claims Spain as part of Islam and has said so many times. Well he claims the whole world for a future muslim theocracy too for that matter. Grenada Spain is part of Islam's glory old days. The Califate is an important symbol in bin Laden's message. Yes, and for the bin laden types, it is an major defeat, that for them, could have well just been yesterday that happened. As evidenced by the AQ statement regarding settling old accounts with Spain. If voters in any western country think that a less confrontational policy towards the groups such as AQ/bin laden will make them safer, they are sorely mistaken. I am not pointing to any specific events like Spain, but in general, in how it appears some Europeans would rather appease or not cooperate with the US/UK, for fear of making the terrorists more mad. I don't think Europe understands that none of that matters to al Qaeda. The only way to deal with Al-Queda and their affiliates and wannabe organizations is to kill them, period. Make membership in the organization very unattractive by making sure the message gets out that if you join AQ, your life is forfeit. Find the remaining leadership (whereever they are) and kill them without mercy or quarter. Then go after the mid-level operatives and either bring them in: either in cuffs or in a body bag. The foot soldiers and financiers are next, along with shutting down and keeping shut down front companies and money laundering operations. Once AQ is done away with, go after the affiliates and wannabe organizations and individuals and mete out the same treatment. If the bleeding hearts want to bleed about this, they can go ahead and bleed. Meanwhile, a dirty job which needs doing is going to get done. Spain has chosen a different path. |
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On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 15:14:37 GMT, "Matt Wiser" wrote:
"Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... Usama bin Laden claims Spain as part of Islam and has said so many times. Well he claims the whole world for a future muslim theocracy too for that matter. Grenada Spain is part of Islam's glory old days. The Califate is an important symbol in bin Laden's message. Well, someone needs to explain to Osama and the rest of AQ and their affiliates and wannabes that their dream of a Caliphiate ain't gonna happen, and that history is replete with failed dreams of glory and ideology: Naziism, Fascism, and Communism all come to mind. Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! I wish that I could agree, but spain has surrendered. Who will be the next to wave a white flag? Al Minyard |
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "OXMORON1" wrote in message ... Tarver wrote: Spain is stolen Muslem land and has been since 1492. The only apeasment that will work for Spain is conversion to Islam. What the heck are you saying? The land beloned to the Europeans before the Islamic troops invaded it. If you are saying that is the Islamic fundamentalist claim, I agree. If you are saying that it is fact, I disagree. It's just another Tarverbot troll. Get used to them, or make life much more simple by just killfiling him--nine out of ten RAM regulars can't be wrong, to steal a phrase from the toothpaste ad.... Be nice, Kevin. Tarver has actually been fairly well behaved lately. |
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"John Keeney" wrote in message ... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "OXMORON1" wrote in message ... Tarver wrote: Spain is stolen Muslem land and has been since 1492. The only apeasment that will work for Spain is conversion to Islam. What the heck are you saying? The land beloned to the Europeans before the Islamic troops invaded it. If you are saying that is the Islamic fundamentalist claim, I agree. If you are saying that it is fact, I disagree. It's just another Tarverbot troll. Get used to them, or make life much more simple by just killfiling him--nine out of ten RAM regulars can't be wrong, to steal a phrase from the toothpaste ad.... Be nice, Kevin. Tarver has actually been fairly well behaved lately. I wouldn't know, being one of those nine-out-of-ten... Brooks |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Matt Wiser" wrote in message news:4059be65$1@bg2.... "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... ... Usama bin Laden claims Spain as part of Islam and has said so many times. Well he claims the whole world for a future muslim theocracy too for that matter. Grenada Spain is part of Islam's glory old days. The Califate is an important symbol in bin Laden's message. Yes, and for the bin laden types, it is an major defeat, that for them, could have well just been yesterday that happened. As evidenced by the AQ statement regarding settling old accounts with Spain. If voters in any western country think that a less confrontational policy towards the groups such as AQ/bin laden will make them safer, they are sorely mistaken. I am not pointing to any specific events like Spain, but in general, in how it appears some Europeans would rather appease or not cooperate with the US/UK, for fear of making the terrorists more mad. I don't think Europe understands that none of that matters to al Qaeda. The only way to deal with Al-Queda and their affiliates and wannabe organizations is to kill them, period. Make membership in the organization very unattractive by making sure the message gets out that if you join AQ, your life is forfeit. Find the remaining leadership (whereever they are) and kill them without mercy or quarter. Then go after the mid-level operatives and either bring them in: either in cuffs or in a body bag. The foot soldiers and financiers are next, along with shutting down and keeping shut down front companies and money laundering operations. Once AQ is done away with, go after the affiliates and wannabe organizations and individuals and mete out the same treatment. If the bleeding hearts want to bleed about this, they can go ahead and bleed. Meanwhile, a dirty job which needs doing is going to get done. Spain has chosen a different path. Unfortunately. Some just can't get the idea that AQ and its affiliates can't be bargained with or reasoned with. You find them and you kill them, period. No ifs, ands, or buts. Counterterrorism is a dirty business, but it's a job that needs doing. Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! |
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"John Keeney" wrote in message ... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... Be nice, Kevin. Tarver has actually been fairly well behaved lately. How does your responding to Kevin's troll help, Keeney? |
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