Airlines Cut Minimum Pilot Experience to 500 hours and Below

Matt W. Barrow writes:

And this group is highly charged, and many have a positive outlook, but many
have negative attitudes.

No wonder the sparks fly.

In classical electrostatic physics (Columbic attractions) opposite
polarities are drawn toward each other. Mx may be some different
charge state, one capable of being repulsed by anything holding a
charge, or even things that are uncharged. He's like an automatic
minus sign in front of any equation that describes attractive forces.







On Dec 1, 5:59 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Matt W. Barrow writes:
And this group is highly charged, and many have a positive outlook, but many
have negative attitudes.

No wonder the sparks fly.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Larry Dighera writes:

The issue you raise has more to do with the Reagan administration's
changes to labor laws and the influx of illegal immigrants than it
does with any flaws in the way the IBEW is structured.

No, this was the situation long before Reagan came to office. The trend
started decades ago.


You;re an idiot and know nothing abotu aviation or anythign else, as far as
anyone can determine.


Bertie

B A R R Y wrote in
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:21:43 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

The issue you raise has more to do with the Reagan administration's
changes to labor laws and the influx of illegal immigrants than it
does with any flaws in the way the IBEW is structured. And it has
absolutely nothing to do with professional pilots.

Of course it does, in the manner that you brought it up.

Individuals who obtain their own education and ratings (electrical
licenses) are free to work where they choose.

Those individuals who trained through the union can only work on union
jobs, of which there are fewer and fewer, so they _don't_ work very
much.

The same would go for pilots if the ALPA trained them.


They don't, and ALPA is different in the way it works.

It isn;t a trade union in the traditional sense.



Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Maxwell writes:

Is that the official position of the "International Brotherhood of
French Speaking English Teachers"?

No, it is the unofficial position of electrical contractors, and has
been for decades.




So the electrical contractors are setting the wages for you when you put
your index car offering english lessons up at the super market?

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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george writes:

So this explains your shocking behaviour in the group ?

Why are people always giving me static?


Because you're an asshole.



Bertie

On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:21:30 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote in
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

The issue you raise has more to do with the Reagan administration's
changes to labor laws and the influx of illegal immigrants than it
does with any flaws in the way the IBEW is structured. And it has
absolutely nothing to do with professional pilots.

all part of that vast right-wing conspiracy!!!

No. Just facts.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Matt W. Barrow writes:

And this group is highly charged, and many have a positive outlook,
but many have negative attitudes.

No wonder the sparks fly.


Only in your tiny mind fjukkwit.

Bertie

On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:00:43 GMT, B A R R Y
wrote in
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 15:21:43 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

The issue you raise has more to do with the Reagan administration's
changes to labor laws and the influx of illegal immigrants than it
does with any flaws in the way the IBEW is structured. And it has
absolutely nothing to do with professional pilots.

Of course it does, in the manner that you brought it up.

Individuals who obtain their own education and ratings (electrical
licenses) are free to work where they choose.

Those individuals who trained through the union can only work on union
jobs, of which there are fewer and fewer, so they _don't_ work very
much.


Union and Non-union building trades work together on large jobs.

The same would go for pilots if the ALPA trained them.

Illegals have nothing to do with the lack of union electrical work, as
they can't get an electrical license with illegal status.

In California, the state licence has only been a requirement for a
couple of years. Reagan removed the right of unions to require the
general contractor man his job solely with union labor as a contract
condition. That opened the door for non-union labor to undercut union
contractors, because they didn't have to pay employee benefits, and
who knows how many were paid cash....

Today, anyone able to swing a hammer is a carpenter. Anyone with a
paintbrush is a painter. Etc. Painters used to attend five years of
schooling, before they were journeymen. They knew how to do
EVERYTHING.... Today?

Times change. Craft guilds wane. The world is a poorer place without
knowledgeable craftsmen. But in today's world, economics is king.
Noble thought and sincerity are anachronisms. I'm happy I lived in
the age I have. I'm not so sure the future will be as nice a place,
but the exponential progress of technology is almost magical...

Larry Dighera wrote:

Today, anyone able to swing a hammer is a carpenter. Anyone with a
paintbrush is a painter. Etc. Painters used to attend five years of
schooling, before they were journeymen. They knew how to do
EVERYTHING.... Today?

They knew how to do everything that was traditional, but seldom the
newest technology.


Times change. Craft guilds wane. The world is a poorer place without
knowledgeable craftsmen. But in today's world, economics is king.
Noble thought and sincerity are anachronisms. I'm happy I lived in
the age I have. I'm not so sure the future will be as nice a place,
but the exponential progress of technology is almost magical...

I'm a large fan of skilled craftsman also, but that is entirely
unrelated to unions as they exist in the USA. Unions often fought
technology and progress and that didn't help their cause.

Matt