Full before landing checklist in the pattern?

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:40:33 -0500, Steve Robertson
wrote:

Seat belts, gas on, mixture, carb heat, land. How can you do any more or
any less in a Cessna 172/152/150? Please enlighten me.

In the C-172SP I fly I do:

Seat belts
Fuel (shutoff)
Mixture (rich or as needed)
Master (both)
Mags (both)
A quick glance at the engine gauges to ensure that oil pressure (above
all else) is in the green.

aw

aaronw wrote:

[speaking of landing checklists]

A quick glance at the engine gauges to ensure that oil pressure (above
all else) is in the green.

....and if it's not, what do you do? land?

Dave
Remove SHIRT to reply directly.

oops, forgot to add fuel selector, so...

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:40:33 -0500, Steve Robertson
wrote:

Seat belts, gas on, mixture, carb heat, land. How can you do any more or
any less in a Cessna 172/152/150? Please enlighten me.

In the C-172SP I fly I do:

Seat belts
Fuel (shutoff)
Fuel (both)
Mixture (rich or as needed)
Master (both)
Mags (both)
A quick glance at the engine gauges to ensure that oil pressure (above
all else) is in the green.

aw

aaronw wrote:

In the C-172SP I fly I do:

/snip/
A quick glance at the engine gauges to ensure that oil pressure (above
all else) is in the green.

aw

Sooo, what do you do if the oil pressure is not in the green? You DON'T
land???

Sooo, what do you do if the oil pressure is not in the green? You DON'T
land???


You make a short approach? If not by choice, then by physics.

Jose

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On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 07:34:56 -0900, Scott Skylane
wrote:

aaronw wrote:

In the C-172SP I fly I do:

/snip/
A quick glance at the engine gauges to ensure that oil pressure (above
all else) is in the green.

aw

Sooo, what do you do if the oil pressure is not in the green? You DON'T
land???

Well, I land, but it would be nice to know if it is having troubles
BEFORE possibly having to extend my downwind due to other traffic in
the area. Yes, I'll be on the ground in 60 seconds or so, but I'd
prefer not to get surprised.

Since I'm low to the ground, my gliding distance in case of engine
failure is lower, and every second I spend in downwind once I pass the
threshold is carrying me further away from the airport.

Yes, engine failure at any time is bad, and I be ready for it anytime,
but there is a lot of stuff taking up my concentration when manuvering
in the pattern, so I just do a quick glance to make sure all is as
good as it gets.

aw

"Steve Robertson" wrote in message
...
Seat belts, gas on, mixture, carb heat, land. How can you do any more or
any less in a Cessna 172/152/150? Please enlighten me.

You can check the brakes for even pressure and turn your landing light on.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:16:36 -0500, BoDEAN
wrote:

How many people do / teach doing a full before landing checklist when
doing pattern work? I do with my students, but other cfi's I work with
use a quick / abbreviated one for our Cessna 172/152


I recently gained my PPL. I don't recall doing the landing checklist
in the pattern ever. Even when I first started lessons in 1964 in a
carburated C172 and I was 15 and a half, we didn't use a checklist.
Carb heat was the only "MUST DO".

What's to check? Flaps? You use them or not, depending on the
circumstances. Mixture? Some leave it in the lean position from
cruise all the way down to touchdown, most go to full rich prior to
entering the pattern. Engine was fuel injected so no carb heat to
worry about.

What else is there for the fixed gear 172?

Personally, I'd prefer to keep my eyes outside the cockpit while in
the pattern.

Corky Scott

PS, yes there was a 40 year span during which I did not pursue the
pilot's license.

A checklist doesn't mean that you have to do something, just that you should
think about it. Your mention of flaps is a good example...FLAPS should be
part of the landing checklist, and it means "what flap setting, if any?"

This does not contradict my reply to BoDean.

Bob Gardner

"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:16:36 -0500, BoDEAN
wrote:

How many people do / teach doing a full before landing checklist when
doing pattern work? I do with my students, but other cfi's I work with
use a quick / abbreviated one for our Cessna 172/152


I recently gained my PPL. I don't recall doing the landing checklist
in the pattern ever. Even when I first started lessons in 1964 in a
carburated C172 and I was 15 and a half, we didn't use a checklist.
Carb heat was the only "MUST DO".

What's to check? Flaps? You use them or not, depending on the
circumstances. Mixture? Some leave it in the lean position from
cruise all the way down to touchdown, most go to full rich prior to
entering the pattern. Engine was fuel injected so no carb heat to
worry about.

What else is there for the fixed gear 172?

Personally, I'd prefer to keep my eyes outside the cockpit while in
the pattern.

Corky Scott

PS, yes there was a 40 year span during which I did not pursue the
pilot's license.

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:06:23 GMT, "Bob Gardner"
wrote:

A checklist doesn't mean that you have to do something, just that you should
think about it. Your mention of flaps is a good example...FLAPS should be
part of the landing checklist, and it means "what flap setting, if any?"

This does not contradict my reply to BoDean.

Bob Gardner

I wasn't commenting on your message, I was responding to the original
post.

My experience has been that other than flaps and mixture, with the
fuel injected engined 172's there's nothing else to adjust.

You pretty much cannot land the airplane without thinking about the
flaps, or at least I can't, so digging out the checklist and reading
"set flaps", or whatever it says seems unnecessary to me at a time
when you want to be concentrating on holding pattern altitude, your
position in regards the runway, airspeed and traffic.

Complex airplanes would of course be different, but the question was
stated in regards "Cessna 172/152."

Corky Scott