Hurricane relief

OK CJ,
I believe in my first post was....
Guys and Gals,
Take a moment tonight for thoughts and prayers for the folks on the Gulf
coast. Winds are now 160 knots. To our newsgroupers in the Mobile area I
sure hope yall have gotten out of Dodge. Let's all hope that things won't be
as bad as everyone is saying. Please do what you can to help the victims, I
am sure lots of our help will be needed and greatly appreciated.

--
Patrick Dixon
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


I do not see one word about letting people die in there, looks to me like I
am asking for everyone to help however they can. I also do not see anything
in there about people's skin color , nationality, nor financial situation. I
do not feel I need the Federal Gov, robbing me of my paycheck on useless
crap programs that do not work. I do believe that a man with any kind of
feeling towards humanity does not need big brother to say he has to help
someone. I try to help anyone I can. And I do not only do it when a disaster
strikes. I do feel if the gov laid off everyones income, more money would be
used to help others than what can be done through the tax and give programs.
Being a free nation does not mean and never has meant a free ride,...if
it does then we all need to stop working because alot of folks are being
cheated out of freedom I think you need to make exceptions for your
theory.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"cjcampbell" wrote in message
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If I have mistated my case, show me the rugged individualists posting
here who have suggested lifting even one finger to help out the
hurricane victims. To the contrary, they began by complaining the
misuse of "their" money and resources for this task, and have suggested
it would just be better to let them die.

"cjcampbell"

If I have mistated my case, show me the rugged individualists posting
here who have suggested lifting even one finger to help out the
hurricane victims. To the contrary, they began by complaining the
misuse of "their" money and resources for this task, and have suggested
it would just be better to let them die.

I have acted alone and privately. At least I'll know where the money's
going. Others might quite correctly feel they've been screwed enough and
find it distasteful that, having created millions, in many cases, for the
government to use, now are being asked to give more.

moo

"cjcampbell" wrote in message
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One of the big problems that we
are dealing with is a culture of dependency. It is too easy to extend
our perceptions of that problem to a point where people don't realize
how inter-dependent they are. A culture of dependency is classless. I
see it in rich and poor alike, among all races and people. It basically
says, "I cannot do anything for myself. It is up to the government, or
the rich, or somebody else, to provide for all my wants and needs." It
is basically a refusal to grow up, to remain forever a child who is
taken care of by its parents.

It's possible, of course, to be excessively dependent. But in general, being
able to create institutions that we can depend on for protection (from
violence, from the aftermath of disasters, from unbreathable air...) is one
of the great blessings of civilization. And as the example of pilots relying
in part on SAR illustrates, such dependency is hardly tantamount to an
attitude that "I cannot do anything for myself".

--Gary

Gary Drescher wrote:
"cjcampbell" wrote in message
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One of the big problems that we
are dealing with is a culture of dependency. It is too easy to extend
our perceptions of that problem to a point where people don't realize
how inter-dependent they are. A culture of dependency is classless. I
see it in rich and poor alike, among all races and people. It basically
says, "I cannot do anything for myself. It is up to the government, or
the rich, or somebody else, to provide for all my wants and needs." It
is basically a refusal to grow up, to remain forever a child who is
taken care of by its parents.

It's possible, of course, to be excessively dependent. But in general, being
able to create institutions that we can depend on for protection (from
violence, from the aftermath of disasters, from unbreathable air...) is one
of the great blessings of civilization. And as the example of pilots relying
in part on SAR illustrates, such dependency is hardly tantamount to an
attitude that "I cannot do anything for myself".

Yes, but there are way too many people in New Orleans (and everywhere
else, for that matter) who are excessively dependent by any reasonable
standard. Besides, haven't you heard? I am too tough on people who are
independent.