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Jay Honeck wrote:
Is it not possible to have a fine wine that happens to be packaged in a modern, convenient container? It probably would be possible. Nobody that makes fine wines does this at the present time. George Patterson Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to your slightly older self. |
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"Tom Conner" wrote in message news:ec6rf.2555 I think the issue was that the wine was in a box. ..... Wine in a box...... wine with a screw cap....... won't age properly in a box...... plastic liner might leave a taste.... OY! How many people go to their local booze shop, buy a $12 bottle of wine, and leave it in their basement for 7 years? Please!! Wine in a box is clearly meant for rapid consumption, (at the party tonight, with dinner tomorrow) and it doesn't amount to a hoot in hell what its packaged in -- it likely was aged in the same vat. I think part of the resistance among certain groups is that with economies and efficiencies in distribution as well as production, decent quality wine will become more easily affordable to the "lower classes", thus diluting the exclusivity. On the other hand, to some palates, it may make a real difference. Remember, though, we're all bozos on this bus! Jay (and I) like the juice of rotting grain, while others prefer the juice of rotting fruit. Can anyone truly explain this? Merry Christmas! |
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John Gaquin wrote:
Can anyone truly explain this? Not I. My preference is for unrotten fruit juices. But I do like my milk rotten, so I suppose I'm not one to judge laugh. I used to visit Hamburg a couple of times a year. The first time I went, I could not locate "coffee to go". When I managed to explain what I wanted clearly, the revulsion over putting coffee in gasp paper cups was plain to see. More recently (and this is a few years back, since I stopped these regular then), this cultural divide had apparently dissolved with "coffee to take with" rather widely available. My addiction and I were grateful. Coffee in a box, though, confused me. When I first saw it, I thought it a terrific idea! I only later learned that the idea is to share it with others, driving out of individual cups. Oh, well. - Andrew |
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"Andrew Gideon" wrote Coffee in a box, though, confused me. When I first saw it, I thought it a terrific idea! I only later learned that the idea is to share it with others, driving out of individual cups. Oh, well. Yep, their are some different ideas for things we all take for granted. I was in Ecuador a few years back, and was on a small road trip on the Pan American Highway. By the way, you may have one idea about that road, but it is really a wide patch of varying surfaces. Sometimes minimal blacktop, sometimes gravel, sometimes a deep pothole, all away across the width of the road, necessitating traversing the hole at 1 MPH.... or pay the doctor. Anyway, we stopped for some gas, a pee, and a drink. We finally got it across what we wanted, and the lady took the coke, got a plastic sandwich baggy, opened it up and poured the drink into the bag. She stuck a straw in it, and twisted it around the straw. Our jaws dropped, but there it was. It seems as though the people selling the coke have to pay deposit on the bottles, and most people want the nickel back, right then, so that is how they get the drink, and the nickel back for the bottle. Different, that is for sure! -- Jim in NC |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:15:34 -0500, Andrew Gideon wrote:
More recently (and this is a few years back, since I stopped these regular then), this cultural divide had apparently dissolved with "coffee to take with" rather widely available. yeah. our culture here is going south (better: gong west) :-/ #m -- If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? W. Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:30:56 -0500, John Gaquin wrote:
Wine in a box is clearly meant for rapid consumption, wine is never meant for rapid consumption (at the party tonight, with dinner tomorrow) and it doesn't amount to a hoot in hell what its packaged in -- it likely was aged in the same vat. it is a matter of style. #m -- If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge? W. Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice, Act III, scene I |
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message wine is never meant for rapid consumption Never meant to be drunk fast; but used fairly soon after purchase, yes. But, you already realized what I meant. (at the party tonight, with dinner tomorrow) and it doesn't amount to a hoot in hell what its packaged in -- it likely was aged in the same vat. it is a matter of style. Precisely my earlier point. Style -- real or imagined. |
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John Gaquin wrote:
"Tom Conner" wrote in message news:ec6rf.2555 I think the issue was that the wine was in a box. ..... Wine in a box...... wine with a screw cap....... won't age properly in a box...... plastic liner might leave a taste.... OY! How many people go to their local booze shop, buy a $12 bottle of wine, and leave it in their basement for 7 years? Please!! Wine in a box is clearly meant for rapid consumption, (at the party tonight, with dinner tomorrow) and it doesn't amount to a hoot in hell what its packaged in -- it likely was aged in the same vat. I think part of the resistance among certain groups is that with economies and efficiencies in distribution as well as production, decent quality wine will become more easily affordable to the "lower classes", thus diluting the exclusivity. On the other hand, to some palates, it may make a real difference. Remember, though, we're all bozos on this bus! Jay (and I) like the juice of rotting grain, while others prefer the juice of rotting fruit. Can anyone truly explain this? Merry Christmas! Well crap!I was going to make a box wine cellar in my hangar for aging investment grade box wines. Seriously though, I understand few wines are suitable for aging. Most are sold for immediate consumption. Box wine would be great for the hangar. BTW my hangar beer is Natty Lite except for special occasions then we get out the home brew wheats. So you can tell by my tastes I am a serious wine/beer snob. |
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John G wrote:
How many people go to their local booze shop, buy a $12 bottle of wine, and leave it in their basement for 7 years? Please!! Probably not many, but I have two daughters, ages 8 and 10. When they were born, I went out and bought a box of wine (twenty four bottles I believe) in the year that each one was born. When they get married, that will be one of their wedding presents, I have laid the bottles on the sides so the cork stays wet. That'll be some aged wine when they open them :^) If I can keep my wife from finding them first : ^ ) so far so good... The Monk |
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"Flyingmonk" wrote I have laid the bottles on the sides so the cork stays wet. That'll be some aged wine when they open them :^) It is a good idea to rotate them 90 degrees every 3 months or so. -- Jim (former alcohol hobbyist) tin NC |
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