Airports/Airspace

wrote:
Let me put it this way because this is another topic you mentioned. A
BFR. There is no such thing as a BFR. And when I hear other instructors
mention this I make sure I correct them. As a CFI there was a great
deal of time I spent covering the Fundamentals of Instruction (FOI).
One of the things I learned was the Law of Primacy. Here as an
Instructor this means that we should teach the material correctly so
that it has a long lasting effect on the student. 61.56 is called
Flight Review. No go do the right thing research it and read it, where
does it mention Biannual Flight Review. You'll find it doesn't, just
that a flight review must be every 24 calender months.

Cjamairway


BFR may not be the term used in the FAR, but who says we have to speak
the same language used in the FAR? Everyone knows what it means.

If you are looking for things to be pedantic about, there are more
useful things you could do in aviation instead of worrying about
terminology.

wrote:

Now show me where in the Aeronautical Information Manual
(AIM) or an FAA Approved government publication that mentions a class
B,C,D Airport. You will not find it...

You can find a few at http://tinyurl.com/n5vuv

You are correct that "Towered airport with Class B Airspace designated for
it" is technically more correct than "Class B Airport", but this is a nit.
When you say, "Class B Airport", everybody knows what you're talking about,
and that's all that really matters.

And, anyway, everybody knows that:

Any of you who have thorough knowledge and understanding of
Airports will know that there are only two kinds of Airports in all of
our National Airspace System (NAS). There is Towered and Non-Towered
Airports.

Is incorrect. The two types of airports are those where you can get a good
burger and a coke for under $10, and those where you can't.

Roy Smith wrote:
wrote:

Now show me where in the Aeronautical Information Manual
(AIM) or an FAA Approved government publication that mentions a class
B,C,D Airport. You will not find it...

You can find a few at http://tinyurl.com/n5vuv

You are correct that "Towered airport with Class B Airspace designated for
it" is technically more correct than "Class B Airport", but this is a nit.
When you say, "Class B Airport", everybody knows what you're talking about,
and that's all that really matters.

And, anyway, everybody knows that:

Any of you who have thorough knowledge and understanding of
Airports will know that there are only two kinds of Airports in all of
our National Airspace System (NAS). There is Towered and Non-Towered
Airports.

Is incorrect. The two types of airports are those where you can get a good
burger and a coke for under $10, and those where you can't.

I heard there are two types of people: those that divide things in two
and those who don't.

I heard there are two types of people: those that divide things in two
and those who don't.

There are three types of people, actually. Those who can count, and
those who can't.

My son tells me there are 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary
numbers, and those who don't.

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I heard there are two types of people: those that divide things in two
and those who don't.

There are three types of people, actually. Those who can count, and
those who can't.

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Stubby wrote:


Roy Smith wrote:
wrote:

Now show me where in the Aeronautical Information Manual
(AIM) or an FAA Approved government publication that mentions a class
B,C,D Airport. You will not find it...

You can find a few at http://tinyurl.com/n5vuv

You are correct that "Towered airport with Class B Airspace designated for
it" is technically more correct than "Class B Airport", but this is a nit.
When you say, "Class B Airport", everybody knows what you're talking about,
and that's all that really matters.

And, anyway, everybody knows that:

Any of you who have thorough knowledge and understanding of
Airports will know that there are only two kinds of Airports in all of
our National Airspace System (NAS). There is Towered and Non-Towered
Airports.

Is incorrect. The two types of airports are those where you can get a good
burger and a coke for under $10, and those where you can't.

I heard there are two types of people: those that divide things in two
and those who don't.

Actually, there's 10 kinds of people. Those who understand binary,
and those who don't.

Any of you who have thorough knowledge and understanding of
Airports will know that there are only two kinds of Airports in all of
our National Airspace System (NAS). There is Towered and Non-Towered
Airports.

Is incorrect. The two types of airports are those where you can get a good
burger and a coke for under $10, and those where you can't.

Can you list a few in New Jersey?

AJ

On 2006-03-15, wrote:
Lets get to the bottom of this.
I constantly hear people refer to Airports as being class B,C or D
Airports. Any of you who have thorough knowledge and understanding of
Airports will know that there are only two kinds of Airports in all of
our National Airspace System (NAS). There is Towered and Non-Towered
Airports. We have Class A,B,C,D,E and G Airspace.
snip

But in casual talk, that's not useful. When talking to your DE, or
having an in-depth discussion with the FAA, the distinction MAY be
useful - but for every day piloting, calling it a 'class D field' tells
the listener in a very concise way that the field has a control tower
with class D airspace. The listener will understand exactly what you
mean and the consequences without having to say 'a towered field with
class D airspace' which takes longer to say.

There is no mention of a 'stop and go' in the regs either, but if an FAA
inspector sees '3 stop and goes' in your log book by the entry for a
Cessna 140, and it was less than 90 days ago, he knows you are current
in tailwheel aircraft. '3 landings to a full stop' takes up much more
space in that tiny area you get to make remarks in your log book.

On the other hand, if you keep up with this pedantry, you and Stephen
McNicholl will be a force to be reckoned with :-)

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Fine, just don't teach them to land on "zero eight" or tell them that
the departure (straight out from the runway) is "upwind". Also, "cross
controlled" stalls aren't the bad ones, it's stalls in a skid that flip
you over on your back. Might teach them something about the importance
of leaning and how and when to do it. And on most engines there is
nothing wrong with "oversquare".

As for Class B airport, you are technically correct, although Ketchikan
is neither (I guess the exception prooves the rule). But it's a LOT
easier to say "Las Vegas is a Class B airport" than to say "Las Vegas
is a towered airport (duh?), with overlying Class B airspace".
Somethings get said and people know what you mean. I don't see the
harm.

I disagree. If you look at a sectional, you will see many different symbols
representing the various kinds of airports.

The different symbols that come to mind a

Color coded - blue vs magenta.

A solid circle vs an empty circle, indicating paved vs unpaved

With 'nubs' vs without 'nubs', indicating fuel available vs fuel not
available.

Therefore, I submit there are eight different 'kinds' of airports:

Towered, paved, with fuel.
Towered, paved, without fuel.
Towered, unpaved, with fuel.
Towered, unpaved, without fuel.
Non-towered, paved, with fuel.
Non-towered, paved, without fuel.
Non-towered, unpaved, with fuel.
Non-towered, unpaved, without fuel.

Unless you consider lighted vs unlighted, which would make it 16 kinds.

Or maybe open vs closed - making it 32.


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Any of you who have thorough knowledge and understanding of
Airports will know that there are only two kinds of Airports in all of
our National Airspace System (NAS). There is Towered and Non-Towered
Airports.