Warning: 25' wide, 1800' long

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
...
I've gone into 2X53 with my Grumman and
the 1900 ft of paved runway was just barely
enough for that attempt...

Correction -- 2XS3, not 2X53... Hmmm... I think they changed the identifier
on the airport to T51 these days... The most recent sectional that I had
here at the house was from 1998...

On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 11:40:06 -0500, Andrew Gideon
wrote in :

(why don't we call it a "nose wind" instead of a "headwind"?)

If the obverse of a coin is dubbed 'Tails,' why isn't he face called
'noses?' :-)

I wonder what the shortest, charted public airport runway is. It used
to be Bold in Alaska (at 1000'), but unless they've renamed it, its not
in airnav.com anymore.

Larry Dighera wrote:
If the obverse of a coin is dubbed 'Tails,' why isn't he face called
'noses?' :-)

Not to get pedantic or anything, but the *obverse* of a coin is "Heads".
The *reverse* is "Tails".

.... Alan
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Alan Gerber
PP-ASEL
gerber AT panix DOT com

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 04:18:29 +0000 (UTC), Alan Gerber
wrote:

Larry Dighera wrote:
If the obverse of a coin is dubbed 'Tails,' why isn't he face called
'noses?' :-)

Not to get pedantic or anything, but the *obverse* of a coin is "Heads".
The *reverse* is "Tails".

And if it lands on the edge, that's perverse.

Don

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 04:18:29 +0000 (UTC), Alan Gerber
wrote in :

Not to get pedantic or anything, but

You are correct. Thanks...

Andrew Gideon wrote in
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nose (why don't we call it a "nose wind" instead of a "headwind"?).

Sometimes your nose is pointed in a different direction, even though the wind
is still hitting you smack upside the head.

Andrew Gideon wrote:


Someone on UNICOM described the problem with the runway: it's small, at
25' width and 1800' length.

That's a problem?


The reason is simple. There're plenty of pilots out there, for every
single year since they passed their checkride, they increase their
approach speed by about a knot, "just to be on the safe side". So 10
years later, short field approach speed in a 172 would be done at 70
KIAS.

On 5 Nov 2006 19:26:57 -0800, "M" wrote:

Andrew Gideon wrote:


Someone on UNICOM described the problem with the runway: it's small, at
25' width and 1800' length.

That's a problem?


The reason is simple. There're plenty of pilots out there, for every
single year since they passed their checkride, they increase their
approach speed by about a knot, "just to be on the safe side". So 10
years later, short field approach speed in a 172 would be done at 70
KIAS.

One of the cues you use for flying a pattern is the aspect ratio of
the runway. At 500 feet, 25 x 1800' runway looks the same as a 50
by 3600' runway at 1000'. (Or something like that; my trig is rusty.)

So, while you're concentrating on the spot on the ground that doesn't
move, your brain is processing other data that says "weird." It can
be distracting.

Don

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 04:30:14 GMT, Don Tuite
wrote:

On 5 Nov 2006 19:26:57 -0800, "M" wrote:

Andrew Gideon wrote:


Someone on UNICOM described the problem with the runway: it's small, at
25' width and 1800' length.

That's a problem?


The reason is simple. There're plenty of pilots out there, for every
single year since they passed their checkride, they increase their
approach speed by about a knot, "just to be on the safe side". So 10
years later, short field approach speed in a 172 would be done at 70
KIAS.

One of the cues you use for flying a pattern is the aspect ratio of
the runway. At 500 feet, 25 x 1800' runway looks the same as a 50
by 3600' runway at 1000'. (Or something like that; my trig is rusty.)

I normally use the altimeter so I don't even notice the aspect ratio
although I hear many talk about it.


So, while you're concentrating on the spot on the ground that doesn't
move, your brain is processing other data that says "weird." It can
be distracting.

Again whether it's a long skinny runway or short fat one, if the spot
doesn't move my brain seems to be happy. OTOH I've been acused of
being simple before.


Don
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com