Frequency of convictions for lying on FAA medical form

Sally Grozmano wrote:
Hi,

I am familiar with the potential penalties for lying on the FAA medical,
but was curious if anyone had any stats on *actual* convictions that have
occured for this, and what the associated penalties were? It seems to be
"common knowledge" that many pilots do lie, but I never hear of actual
convictions.


I knew a guy who knew a guy who heard about a guy who got caught cheating on the
form. They say he was lined up against the wall and shot.

I suspect pretty much everyone here isn't going to get any closer to the
absolute truth than I did. The fact is probably that it's very rare, and
probably directly tied to accidents. (No accident/no investigation) As for
penalties, it's whatever your lawyer can work out for you. Probably a
suspension and civil penalty at worst. That would also be predicated on what
condition you hid from them. Are you having daily seizures?



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

("Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote)
I knew a guy who knew a guy who heard about a guy who got caught cheating
on the form. They say he was lined up against the wall and shot.

Q. FAA person who carries out the order?

A. Yup, Designated Executioner.

That would also be predicated on what condition you hid from them. Are
you having daily seizures?

Big deal - as long as they don't effect your mood, or make you drowsy.
Although, you might go through a good number of microphone booms over the
course of a year.


Montblack

That's what is needed , antidepressants that don't effect
your mood, wait, depression is a mood.



"Montblack" wrote
in message ...
| ("Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote)
| I knew a guy who knew a guy who heard about a guy who
got caught cheating
| on the form. They say he was lined up against the wall
and shot.
|
| Q. FAA person who carries out the order?
|
| A. Yup, Designated Executioner.
|
| That would also be predicated on what condition you hid
from them. Are
| you having daily seizures?
|
| Big deal - as long as they don't effect your mood, or make
you drowsy.
| Although, you might go through a good number of microphone
booms over the
| course of a year.
|
|
| Montblack
|
|

Just ask the FAA, statistics must be reported.

But like most FAA enforcement, investigations follow
accidents. They don't have convictions or civil penalties
for dead pilots, although there may be torts for innocent
losses.



"Sally Grozmano" wrote in message
. ..
| Hi,
|
| I am familiar with the potential penalties for lying on
the FAA medical,
| but was curious if anyone had any stats on *actual*
convictions that have
| occured for this, and what the associated penalties were?
It seems to be
| "common knowledge" that many pilots do lie, but I never
hear of actual
| convictions.
|
|
| Thanks,
| Sally

Jim Macklin wrote:
Just ask the FAA, statistics must be reported.

But like most FAA enforcement, investigations follow
accidents. They don't have convictions or civil penalties
for dead pilots, although there may be torts for innocent
losses.

Doesn't need to be a dead pilot, just a fatal accident (someone
other than the pilot may have died)...

Ron Natalie wrote in news:45b5151e$0$28100
:

Jim Macklin wrote:
Just ask the FAA, statistics must be reported.

But like most FAA enforcement, investigations follow
accidents. They don't have convictions or civil penalties
for dead pilots, although there may be torts for innocent
losses.

Doesn't need to be a dead pilot, just a fatal accident (someone
other than the pilot may have died)...

Just to reiterate what I said before, if I am involved in an accident where
someone dies, the last thing on my mind is going to be financial penalties.
That would haunt me for the rest of my life (whether I was at fault or
not). My main concern is getting my ticket, and slapped with a huge fine
from the FAA finding out about my ommisions through other channels
(insurance, DEA, etc).

On 22 Jan 2007 20:17:46 GMT, Sally wrote:

My main concern is getting my ticket, and slapped with a huge fine
from the FAA finding out about my ommisions through other channels
(insurance, DEA, etc).

Aren't you a bit worried about Google Groups archiving this admission, with
what looks like your real name, well into the next century?

--
Dallas

On 01/22/07 14:59, Dallas wrote:
On 22 Jan 2007 20:17:46 GMT, Sally wrote:

My main concern is getting my ticket, and slapped with a huge fine
from the FAA finding out about my ommisions through other channels
(insurance, DEA, etc).

Aren't you a bit worried about Google Groups archiving this admission, with
what looks like your real name, well into the next century?


Admissions? Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see the OP admit anything.
Just asked a few 'What if...' questions.

Dallas writes:

Aren't you a bit worried about Google Groups archiving this admission, with
what looks like your real name, well into the next century?

It doesn't contain an admission of anything.

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Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

"Sally Grozmano"

Just to reiterate what I said before, if I am involved in an accident
where
someone dies, the last thing on my mind is going to be financial
penalties.
That would haunt me for the rest of my life (whether I was at fault or
not). My main concern is getting my ticket, and slapped with a huge fine
from the FAA finding out about my ommisions through other channels
(insurance, DEA, etc).

Well, don't kill anyone and you'll never be noticed..What, exactly, did you
do that requires discipline? Your "main concern" is boring.

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