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Old January 29th 07, 01:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dylan Smith
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On 2007-01-29, Jay Honeck wrote:
I know you don't like
government employees, but try visiting one of the forecasting sites -
you might be surprised about what they do and don't do.


Where did you ever get that idea? I absolutely adore all government
employees who do their jobs efficiently, and accomplish their tasks at
a price that matches the market value of their work.


So for what reason do you think that the meteorologists aren't doing
their jobs efficiently?

Note that the warning to dress warmly that you got - you said it was from
a Weather Channel widget. Now I could be wrong, but isn't the Weather
Channel a private company? Perhaps you should bemoan the nanny
corporation before the nanny state...

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Old January 29th 07, 01:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Note that the warning to dress warmly that you got - you said it was from
a Weather Channel widget. Now I could be wrong, but isn't the Weather
Channel a private company? Perhaps you should bemoan the nanny
corporation before the nanny state...


Okay, I'll bemoan that, too. I've seen enough corporate welfare lately
that it's easy to despise them, too.

Of course, it's the corporate whores who have government stooges in
their hip pockets that make the corporate welfare possible, so, dang,
I guess I'll have to hate 'em all...

;-)
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Old January 29th 07, 02:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Dylan Smith writes:

Note that the warning to dress warmly that you got - you said it was from
a Weather Channel widget. Now I could be wrong, but isn't the Weather
Channel a private company?


It is, but it gets its data from the government, like all weather
networks.

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Old January 29th 07, 06:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter R.
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On 1/28/2007 7:27:59 PM, Dylan Smith wrote:

Note that the warning to dress warmly that you got - you said it was from
a Weather Channel widget. Now I could be wrong, but isn't the Weather
Channel a private company?


It is, but the Weather Channel Desktop Weather alert to which Jay is
referring is coming from the National Weather Service, not the Weather
Channel. TWC is just the messenger.

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Old January 29th 07, 07:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Longworth[_1_]
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On Jan 28, 8:51 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Despite this commonly known fact, the National Weather Service has
felt compelled to issue a urgent "Winter Weather Advisory" for
"extreme wind chills". My desktop weather (courtesy of the Weather
Honestly, will this "Nanny State" we've created ever right itself? ....
We're paying hundreds of meteorologists, in the employ of the Federal
Government, under the auspices of the National Weather Service, to
issue WARNINGS TO DRESS WARMLY...

It is to weep...


Jay,
I'm pretty sure that those warnings are automatically generated
when the collected data exceeding certain thresholds. Don't forget
that we live in a very litigious society. Imagine that if there is a
hiccup in the software so that such a warning is not issue and some
idiots decide to hike up a mountain without dressing warmly or some
street people not going to shelter etc. then die from hypothermina
etc., I'm pretty sure there would be a horde of lawyers lining up to
sue the national weather service and/or the weather station. Mind
you that this is not a statement against all lawyers (my father was a
lawyer and two of my siblings are lawyers), this is just a sad fact-of-
life of our current legal system. Yes, it is to weep not because of
the 'nanny state' but the condition which creates it.
Regarding the National Weather Service, I am quite grateful that we
have a great weather information system and still quite amaze that we
have everything at our fingertips be it logging on the internet or
clicking the on button on the remote TV control to get very
comprehensive weather information. I check the aviationweather.gov
and the weather.com sites pretty much everyday.

Hai Longworth

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Old January 30th 07, 06:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave Stadt
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"Longworth" wrote in message
ups.com...


On Jan 28, 8:51 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Despite this commonly known fact, the National Weather Service has
felt compelled to issue a urgent "Winter Weather Advisory" for
"extreme wind chills". My desktop weather (courtesy of the Weather
Honestly, will this "Nanny State" we've created ever right itself? ....
We're paying hundreds of meteorologists, in the employ of the Federal
Government, under the auspices of the National Weather Service, to
issue WARNINGS TO DRESS WARMLY...

It is to weep...


Jay,
I'm pretty sure that those warnings are automatically generated
when the collected data exceeding certain thresholds. Don't forget
that we live in a very litigious society. Imagine that if there is a
hiccup in the software so that such a warning is not issue and some
idiots decide to hike up a mountain without dressing warmly or some
street people not going to shelter etc. then die from hypothermina
etc., I'm pretty sure there would be a horde of lawyers lining up to
sue the national weather service and/or the weather station. Mind
you that this is not a statement against all lawyers (my father was a
lawyer and two of my siblings are lawyers), this is just a sad fact-of-
life of our current legal system. Yes, it is to weep not because of
the 'nanny state' but the condition which creates it.
Regarding the National Weather Service, I am quite grateful that we
have a great weather information system and still quite amaze that we
have everything at our fingertips be it logging on the internet or
clicking the on button on the remote TV control to get very
comprehensive weather information. I check the aviationweather.gov
and the weather.com sites pretty much everyday.

Hai Longworth


You mean a great weather information system that is wrong more than half the
time.


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Old January 30th 07, 10:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gene Seibel
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On Jan 28, 7:51 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
We (in the upper Midwest) are in the grips of some cold weather right
now. This is not surprising, since the last week of January is
statistically the coldest week of the year.


Took a flight up to Peru in northern IL in 20 degree temps yesterday
and survived. Great flying! Made it back home yesterday afternoon, so
didn't have to deal with the presidential TFR at Peoria today. Got to
sit at home and listen to the Air Force warning pilots on 121.5 when
they approached and entered the TFR.
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Old January 31st 07, 12:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 05:51:26 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote
(in article .com):

We (in the upper Midwest) are in the grips of some cold weather right
now. This is not surprising, since the last week of January is
statistically the coldest week of the year.

Despite this commonly known fact, the National Weather Service has
felt compelled to issue a urgent "Winter Weather Advisory" for
"extreme wind chills".


Ah, it is nothing. The daughter of a friend of ours was a missionary in
Novosibirsk, Russia. Novosibersk is (roughly) in what used to be known as
Outer Mongolia. Heh-heh. She should have paid more attention in my Seminary
class. I warned her she would be sent to Outer Mongolia.

Anyway, she sent back a picture of herself dressed in a fur hat and fur coat.
She looked cold. She said that sometimes your breath freezes and falls to the
ground and makes a tinkling noise. They have a word for that in their
language. HA! A word for the tinkling noise your breath makes when it freezes
and falls to the ground. Bet they don't have that in Iowa! And I bet their
radio doesn't tell people to dress warm, either!

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Old January 31st 07, 02:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Beckman
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
e.com...
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 05:51:26 -0800, Jay Honeck wrote
(in article .com):

We (in the upper Midwest) are in the grips of some cold weather right
now. This is not surprising, since the last week of January is
statistically the coldest week of the year.

Despite this commonly known fact, the National Weather Service has
felt compelled to issue a urgent "Winter Weather Advisory" for
"extreme wind chills".


Ah, it is nothing. The daughter of a friend of ours was a missionary in
Novosibirsk, Russia. Novosibersk is (roughly) in what used to be known as
Outer Mongolia. Heh-heh. She should have paid more attention in my
Seminary
class. I warned her she would be sent to Outer Mongolia.

Anyway, she sent back a picture of herself dressed in a fur hat and fur
coat.
She looked cold. She said that sometimes your breath freezes and falls to
the
ground and makes a tinkling noise. They have a word for that in their
language. HA! A word for the tinkling noise your breath makes when it
freezes
and falls to the ground. Bet they don't have that in Iowa!


Having grown up in the upper midwest (Michigan) I can assure you there is a
word for when it gets that cold. Several words in fact. And, in addition
to the frozen breath, you also get air that turns a lovely shade of blue.

;O)

Jay Beckman
Shivering in 50 degree Wx in
Chandler, AZ


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Old January 31st 07, 04:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith
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In article ,
"Jay Beckman" wrote:

Having grown up in the upper midwest (Michigan) I can assure you there is a
word for when it gets that cold. Several words in fact. And, in addition
to the frozen breath, you also get air that turns a lovely shade of blue.
;O)
Jay Beckman
Shivering in 50 degree Wx in
Chandler, AZ


What a wimp!
What? You couldn't handle the Michigan weather so you moved south for
your health?
Shucks, even Montblack still lives in Minnesota!

:-))
 




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