GA Flying Down 20%

"Jay Honeck" wrote

Oh, my God. That is incredible. And awful.

I wonder if those sales figures from the 1980s included military
aircraft? There used to be lots of military hardware burning avgas
-- not any more...

If not? Holy moley...GA really is dead.

But, don't forget. There is a hell of a lot of mogas being burned now,
where there was mostly all avgas being used, back then.
--
Jim in NC

On May 31, 9:31 pm, "Morgans" wrote:


But, don't forget. There is a hell of a lot of mogas being burned now,
where there was mostly all avgas being used, back then.

I wonder if there's any statistics on this. I know I'm burning mogas
in my plane like no tomorrow. It's a psychological thing, like
reverse commute and watching people stuck on the freeway in the
opposite direction. Mogas at AWO is $3.81 right now, but compared to
100LL's $4.82 it's a steal, and I can't fly enough of it before it'll
go even higher next year.

Jay Honeck wrote:
Just look at the drops of avgas consumption:

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/a403600001m.htm

Oh, my God. That is incredible. And awful.

I wonder if those sales figures from the 1980s included military
aircraft? There used to be lots of military hardware burning avgas
-- not any more...

If not? Holy moley...GA really is dead.

I don't think many military airplanes have used avgas since 2000, and
the drop since this is still very dramatic. I won't say GA is dead, but
it certainly is very sick. I'm looking at BMW motorcycles this weekend,
having decided I simply can't afford an airplane of the capability I
really need to be useful (Skylane or better) and the inconvenience of he
nearest airport with hangars being 45 minutes away. If I buy a new
bike, I'll probably drop my flying club membership and ride.

Matt

I don't think many military airplanes have used avgas since 2000, and
the drop since this is still very dramatic. I won't say GA is dead, but
it certainly is very sick. I'm looking at BMW motorcycles this weekend,
having decided I simply can't afford an airplane of the capability I
really need to be useful (Skylane or better) and the inconvenience of he
nearest airport with hangars being 45 minutes away. If I buy a new
bike, I'll probably drop my flying club membership and ride.

Don't get me wrong -- riding is great. (Just got my Goldwing out of
winter storage last weekend.) But it ain't flying...

Nothing is.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
I don't think many military airplanes have used avgas since 2000, and
the drop since this is still very dramatic. I won't say GA is dead, but
it certainly is very sick. I'm looking at BMW motorcycles this weekend,
having decided I simply can't afford an airplane of the capability I
really need to be useful (Skylane or better) and the inconvenience of he
nearest airport with hangars being 45 minutes away. If I buy a new
bike, I'll probably drop my flying club membership and ride.

Don't get me wrong -- riding is great. (Just got my Goldwing out of
winter storage last weekend.) But it ain't flying...

Nothing is.


1) Buy a hotel or two far away from where you are, but in places you like to
visit.

2) Fly to them to "cehck on our properties".

3) Write off the vast majority of your flying costs.

Jay Honeck wrote:
I don't think many military airplanes have used avgas since 2000, and
the drop since this is still very dramatic. I won't say GA is dead, but
it certainly is very sick. I'm looking at BMW motorcycles this weekend,
having decided I simply can't afford an airplane of the capability I
really need to be useful (Skylane or better) and the inconvenience of he
nearest airport with hangars being 45 minutes away. If I buy a new
bike, I'll probably drop my flying club membership and ride.

Don't get me wrong -- riding is great. (Just got my Goldwing out of
winter storage last weekend.) But it ain't flying...

Nothing is.

Nothing but flying is flying, but nothing but riding is riding. I don't
value one more than the other. They are different experiences, but
neither is better or worse than the other. Some people have broader
interests that you. You need to understand that.

Matt

"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Just look at the drops of avgas consumption:

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/a403600001m.htm

Oh, my God. That is incredible. And awful.

What's really striking is the dropoff after 9/11/01. 100LL deliveries have
never recovered.


--
Dan
? at BFM

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...
Just look at the drops of avgas consumption:

http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/a403600001m.htm

Oh, my God. That is incredible. And awful.

I wonder if those sales figures from the 1980s included military
aircraft? There used to be lots of military hardware burning avgas
-- not any more...

If not? Holy moley...GA really is dead.


Look at Jet-A consumption.

GA isn't dead, just not burning AvGas.

Matt Barrow writes:

Look at Jet-A consumption.

GA isn't dead, just not burning AvGas.

That may be a very different flavor of GA, one completely inaccessible to the
average private pilot flying for pleasure. I've no doubt that business jets
are on the upswing, but that's not a realistic option for someone who normally
rents a Cessna 152.

On Jun 1, 6:32 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Matt Barrow writes:
Look at Jet-A consumption.

GA isn't dead, just not burning AvGas.

That may be a very different flavor of GA, one completely inaccessible to the
average private pilot flying for pleasure. I've no doubt that business jets
are on the upswing, but that's not a realistic option for someone who normally
rents a Cessna 152.

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missed he point, as always.
You´re an idiot.