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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil



 
 
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Old October 21st 07, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Peter Dohm
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Default My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
...
Edward A. Falk wrote:
In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:
Sounds good to me.
Me, too.

I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile
(round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as
my next vehicle.


All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of
a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips,
and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it,
it becomes pretty green.


Have you researched the process of making solar panels? Things aren't as
"green" as they seem...

Matt


"Green" is a religion, in which party-hack politicians are the gods.

Personally, I prefer a religion in which the only God is more perfect than
any human could even be or even imagine.




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Old October 20th 07, 12:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_1_]
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What voltage do those cars use? I assume it's more than 12V. If so,
you'll have to series connect several solar panels to match what you
need. And then, if it's an oddball voltage, you'll have to build your
own charge controller to keep from overcharging. And then, does the
battery type used require a constant voltage or constant current to
charge them. If constant current, you will have to build your own
current source. None of this is un-doable, just some dinking around.
If the voltage required is quite high, you will have a fair investment
in solar panels...

Edward A. Falk wrote:

In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:

Sounds good to me.


Me, too.

I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile
(round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as
my next vehicle.



All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of
a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips,
and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it,
it becomes pretty green.


--
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
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Old October 21st 07, 12:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Jim Macklin
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The current crop of electric hybrids use about 4,000 AA
Li-ion batteries in series-parallel to get 800-1000 VDC for
the motors.



"Scott" wrote in message
.. .
| What voltage do those cars use? I assume it's more than
12V. If so,
| you'll have to series connect several solar panels to
match what you
| need. And then, if it's an oddball voltage, you'll have
to build your
| own charge controller to keep from overcharging. And
then, does the
| battery type used require a constant voltage or constant
current to
| charge them. If constant current, you will have to build
your own
| current source. None of this is un-doable, just some
dinking around.
| If the voltage required is quite high, you will have a
fair investment
| in solar panels...
|
| Edward A. Falk wrote:
|
| In article
. com,
| Jay Honeck wrote:
|
| Sounds good to me.
|
| Me, too.
|
| I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact,
given my 6 mile
| (round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an
all-electric car as
| my next vehicle.
|
|
| All-electric cars have the problem of limited range.
I'm thinking of
| a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car
for short trips,
| and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the
roof to charge it,
| it becomes pretty green.
|
|
| --
| Scott
| http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
| Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
| Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)


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Old October 14th 07, 07:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.


If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

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Old October 14th 07, 12:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:39:27 -0000, wrote:


Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.


If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.


what a lonely life that is.
working from home. horrors, perish the thought.
no cultural stimulation.
bugger all new technology.
everything you work with you have to pay for by yourself.

stupid idea.
long live the modern office.

Stealth Pilot
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Old October 14th 07, 02:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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what a lonely life that is.
working from home. horrors, perish the thought.
no cultural stimulation.
bugger all new technology.
everything you work with you have to pay for by yourself.

stupid idea.
long live the modern office.


My wife telecommutes to a job in Wisconsin. She now does it from the
hotel, but for years she did it from home.

With little kids, it was great. Like being a stay-at-home mom, with
income. Going to work meant putting slippers on, and sitting down at
the PC.

Later, when the kids were in school, you're right -- she was socially
isolated, and lonely. She is now much happier telecommuting from the
hotel, where there is obviously ample opportunity for social
interaction.

Telecommuting is great in many ways, but awful in others.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old October 14th 07, 06:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Michael Ash
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In rec.aviation.student Stealth Pilot wrote:
what a lonely life that is.
working from home. horrors, perish the thought.
no cultural stimulation.


I work from home and go hang out with the glider club on the weekends,
does great for the cultural stimulation business.

bugger all new technology.
everything you work with you have to pay for by yourself.


Funny, my employers still buy most of my equipment even though they never
see me, or it.

--
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Old October 15th 07, 12:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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stupid idea.
long live the modern office.


It depends. It would be a stupid idea if it leads to lesser
productivity but lesser productivity rarely goes unnoticed. If your
job is such that you can work from home without sacrificing on
productivity, then getting caught in rush hour traffic while
unnecessarily commuting to work would be a stupid idea instead. There
would be plenty of cases where a worker would be more productive while
working from home.

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Old October 18th 07, 03:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Oct 15, 12:34 am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:

working from home. horrors, perish the thought.


The best thing about working from home, is you are at home when you
are at work.

The worst thing about working form home, is you are at work when you
are at home.

no cultural stimulation.


Only if you so desire.

bugger all new technology.


Only if you are a cheap bugger.

everything you work with you have to pay for by yourself.


All the profits (and savings) you make, you get to keep for yourself.


 




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