Keeping Me Out of Your Warbird?

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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"John S. Shinal" wrote in
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

A self inspired night checkout in the average warbird would kill all
but
the
most "inspired" I can assure you!! :-)))

"All right, time to rotate...hmmm...what the...why can't I...
AAAGH ! The gust locks !"

PRANG ! Boom.

Actually..... saw a guy do something almost as bad once. He had a
Tri-Pacer.
We were all watching through the window of the flight office as he taxied
out with a rather large concrete block trailing along behind him tied to
his
tail. We yelled at him on the radio, but naturally he didn't have THAT
on!!!
So we all climbed on the field pickup truck and raced across the field
after
him. We caught up to him while he was doing his runup. To this day, when
some of us get together and remember this, we bust out laughing thinking
what must have been going through his mind when he saw about fifteen
people
hanging onto a bouncing pickup truck coming directly at him shouting and
waving like a bunch of banshees!!
He told us he nearly **** a brick!!! THAT REALLY broke us up!!!!!

Maybe someone else can provide the specific details but....... once upon a
time a visiting foreign fighter pilot to Australia attempted to land with
his gear up, on his belly tank!

Would have loved to watch that........at a safe distance.

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"John S. Shinal" wrote:

"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

A self inspired night checkout in the average warbird would kill all but the
most "inspired" I can assure you!! :-)))

"All right, time to rotate...hmmm...what the...why can't I...
AAAGH ! The gust locks !"

PRANG ! Boom.

IIRC:
Is'nt that what caused the crash of the Evansville IN team DC-3
years ago. Crew forgot to remove the gust locks ?

1977, Dec 13 DC-3 Crashed after takeoff at Evansville, Indiana, USA
when a National Jet Services DC-3 crashed
during takeoff in Evansville, Ind., killing all
29 people on board, including the entire
14-member Evansville basketball team and
their coach, Bobby Watson.

(John S. Shinal)
Date: 2/9/2004 3:09 PM Central Standard Time
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote:

A self inspired night checkout in the average warbird would kill all but the
most "inspired" I can assure you!! :-)))

"All right, time to rotate...hmmm...what the...why can't I...
AAAGH ! The gust locks !"

PRANG ! Boom.




That's how Les Towers put the Boeing 299, prototype for the B-17, into the
ground.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"Dudley Henriques" wrote
A lot of the guys have a padlock setup on their canopies or doors in the
case of multi-engine stuff. Some aircraft canopy design allows for a hole in
the canopy track you can padlock.

Well... this ain't exactly an example of a "discreet" place to put a
padlock, but anyway... :-)

http://www.aviacaomilitar.com.br/webkits/padlock.jpg

That's P-47D-40-RA n° 45-49151, preserved at the Museu Aeroespacial,
Rio de Janeiro, here in Brazil. And yes, that's me in the cockpit...

Vicente

"Vicente Vazquez" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote
A lot of the guys have a padlock setup on their canopies or doors in the
case of multi-engine stuff. Some aircraft canopy design allows for a
hole in
the canopy track you can padlock.

Well... this ain't exactly an example of a "discreet" place to put a
padlock, but anyway... :-)

http://www.aviacaomilitar.com.br/webkits/padlock.jpg

That's P-47D-40-RA n° 45-49151, preserved at the Museu Aeroespacial,
Rio de Janeiro, here in Brazil. And yes, that's me in the cockpit...

Vicente

Hi Vicente;

That's a great shot, and a great airplane. That padlock would be one of the
ways to secure the canopy on a 47; that's for sure!
My friend Vlado Lenoch has recently just flown a beautifully restored Jug (a
D.. I believe). There aren't too many left out there. This one looks like it
will be a great restoration when finished.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Commercial Pilot/ CFI Retired
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The "Mildenhall Incident" made life on the transient flightline hell for a
couple of months, actually had to wear those flightline badges all the time.
Our a/c took to having the lead loadmaster check everyone as part of the
aircraft baggage drill. No badge, no bag and nobody wanted to explain to the
APs running around all ove the place.

oxmoron1
Almost like being on a SAC Aerodrome!

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Back in SAC days when I was a Command Post Controller I had two instances
where I sent the Supervisor of Flying and a security strike team to remove a
crew from the cockpit. One of the requirements then was a radio check
requiring authentication and an authenticated takeoff message for any
training flight. After the crew could not authenticate I asked the team to
go out. In both cases the crew had multiple days of authenticators and was
using the wrong day. Made me always a little leery of those two crews.

Many years ago at Nellis a crew chief was taxiing an F-100 and had always
wondered about afterburner. Yes he did...lost control, off the runway,
through the fence, across the road where the bird burned. All over the Air
Force crew chiefs were barred from moving aircraft under power which had
been common practice prior to the incident.

Regards,

Tex Houston

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message thlink.net...
Hi Vicente;
That's a great shot, and a great airplane. That padlock would be one of the
ways to secure the canopy on a 47; that's for sure!
My friend Vlado Lenoch has recently just flown a beautifully restored Jug (a
D.. I believe). There aren't too many left out there. This one looks like it
will be a great restoration when finished.

Hi Dudley,

That aircraft's restoration was actually completed in 1999 (IIRC).
It's the only P-47 Thunderbolt in airworthy condition in Brazil,
though our Air Force forbade the museum to fly the aircraft, under the
argument that such rare aircraft shouldn't be put under the risk of
being lost in an accident. The engine is turned on and the a/c taxis
every once in a while, but it isn't flown (at least not while there's
someone watching :-)) Actually, it was flown briefly and
"unnoficially" several times, during tests. As the Museum belongs to
our Air Force, I guess it must be the last airworthy P-47 in the world
to still be "officially owned" by an Air Force. :-)

Some more pics:

http://www.aviacaomilitar.com.br/webkits/b4_musal_1.jpg
http://www.aviacaomilitar.com.br/webkits/b4_musal_2.jpg
http://www.aviacaomilitar.com.br/webkits/b4_musal_3.jpg

(Pictures taken from airliners.net website)

It is a post-war aircraft (P-47D-40-RA s/n 45-49151, former FAB 4184),
received in 1953, and it is painted in the colors and markings of the
aircraft flown by Lt. Luiz Lopes Dornelles (P-47D-25-RE s/n 42-26766),
the last Brazilian pilot to be KIA in italy.

There are four other P-47's preserved in Brazil (42-26757, 42-26760,
42-26762 and 44-19663) and though they are not airworthy, they have a
much more important historical value (at least for us) as these four
aircraft are all "combat veterans" from our 1st FS in Italy.

Cheers,

Vicente

(v dot vazquez at terra dot com dot br)

I understand completely the argument concerning the flying of such a rare
bird. It's true that things can go wrong and an airplane like this could be
lost. It's a judgment call really, and each owner or association involved
with these airplanes must make this judgment carefully. You can make the
argument either way.
It's wonderful to see these airplanes in the air of course, but as they get
down to the nitty gritty of the last ones in the world, the desire to see
them in flight weighs more heavily on those entrusted with their care and
safe keeping.
I flew my Mustang, but I would respect another pilots decision not to fly
their warbird. It's a tough call!! :-)
Dudley

"Vicente Vazquez" wrote in message
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Hi Vicente;
That's a great shot, and a great airplane. That padlock would be one of
the
ways to secure the canopy on a 47; that's for sure!
My friend Vlado Lenoch has recently just flown a beautifully restored
Jug (a
D.. I believe). There aren't too many left out there. This one looks
like it
will be a great restoration when finished.

Hi Dudley,

That aircraft's restoration was actually completed in 1999 (IIRC).
It's the only P-47 Thunderbolt in airworthy condition in Brazil,
though our Air Force forbade the museum to fly the aircraft, under the
argument that such rare aircraft shouldn't be put under the risk of
being lost in an accident. The engine is turned on and the a/c taxis
every once in a while, but it isn't flown (at least not while there's
someone watching :-)) Actually, it was flown briefly and
"unnoficially" several times, during tests. As the Museum belongs to
our Air Force, I guess it must be the last airworthy P-47 in the world
to still be "officially owned" by an Air Force. :-)

Some more pics:

http://www.aviacaomilitar.com.br/webkits/b4_musal_1.jpg
http://www.aviacaomilitar.com.br/webkits/b4_musal_2.jpg
http://www.aviacaomilitar.com.br/webkits/b4_musal_3.jpg

(Pictures taken from airliners.net website)

It is a post-war aircraft (P-47D-40-RA s/n 45-49151, former FAB 4184),
received in 1953, and it is painted in the colors and markings of the
aircraft flown by Lt. Luiz Lopes Dornelles (P-47D-25-RE s/n 42-26766),
the last Brazilian pilot to be KIA in italy.

There are four other P-47's preserved in Brazil (42-26757, 42-26760,
42-26762 and 44-19663) and though they are not airworthy, they have a
much more important historical value (at least for us) as these four
aircraft are all "combat veterans" from our 1st FS in Italy.

Cheers,

Vicente

(v dot vazquez at terra dot com dot br)

(Vicente Vazquez) wrote in message . com...
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There are four other P-47's preserved in Brazil (42-26757, 42-26760,
42-26762 and 44-19663) and though they are not airworthy, they have a
much more important historical value (at least for us) as these four
aircraft are all "combat veterans" from our 1st FS in Italy.


Know the feeling, we just got a flying kiwi Corsair back in the
country (saw it flying here on TV a couple of days ago.)

http://www.travelcentre.com.au/trave...f_the_show.htm

Errol Cavit | "I long for the day when we can match the Germans in the
sky, ‘plane for ‘plane. When that day dawns, Germany is
beaten. We know by experience that we can whack his land forces, tanks
included, any day of the week." Private L. A. Diamond, 23 NZ Batt,
1941