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  #31  
Old October 1st 05, 05:01 AM
Jay Honeck
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I think you should be turned in for child abuse! How can you ever expect
your children to survive in our welfare society with this sort of
preparation? :-)


Funny thing is, when my parents did it to me, I really thought it *was*
"child abuse"... :-)

I wish more parents would impress upon their children that the world really
doesn't owe them a nickel. Just imagine what we, as a society, could
accomplish?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old October 1st 05, 05:28 AM
Matt Whiting
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I think you should be turned in for child abuse! How can you ever expect
your children to survive in our welfare society with this sort of
preparation? :-)



Funny thing is, when my parents did it to me, I really thought it *was*
"child abuse"... :-)

I wish more parents would impress upon their children that the world really
doesn't owe them a nickel. Just imagine what we, as a society, could
accomplish?


Actually, we did accomplish a lot, but that was all before the 1930s
when we began the shift to our current welfare society.


Matt
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Old October 1st 05, 05:32 AM
Flyingmonk
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My wife spoils our girls rotten : -) (material wise and money wise).
She is spoiled herself. Woes me... : -)

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Old October 1st 05, 12:43 PM
Jay Honeck
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Actually, we did accomplish a lot, but that was all before the 1930s when
we began the shift to our current welfare society.


Well, I think in retrospect our downfall began in the '30s -- but I'd say
the zenith of American life was somewhere around 1985 -- roughly the end of
the Cold War.

At that point we still had leaders at the helm who lived through the
Depression and World War II, and could appreciate the fact that life was
very precious, and hard work was rewarded. But by then, of course, the
seeds for our own slow, painful self-destruction had been planted deep.

Oh well. It will sort itself out, as it always does, and our grand-children
will all either be speaking Chinese, or Farsi.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old October 2nd 05, 01:03 AM
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our grand-children will all either be speaking Chinese, or Farsi.

Our schools are already teaching in two languages, English and Spanish.
At Parent/Teacher meetings, the entire discussion is translated into
spanish, LIVE. I had enough of it one day and asked the translator to
translate into Lao or Thai for my wife and me. I said that if they
were going to translate, than translate for everyone or not at all.
She said they are working on that. Oh Boy... What's wrong with just
plain English, if they don't understand now, they'll understand later.
If it gets translated for them now, they will always want it translated
for them. Am I wrong?

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Old October 2nd 05, 02:29 AM
Mike W.
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My brother is in the Navy, married a Mexican gal who has a 9 yr old daughter
by her first marriage. My brother and his wife currently live in San Diego,
but are moving to Fallon, NV next year. The daughter lives primarily with
her granparents in TJ, they want to take her with them when they move. She
speaks some english, but whenever she is up visiting her mom, they always
speak to her in spanish. That's fine until they get to Nevada. I think they
are making it harder for her in the long run, by not making her practice her
english when she visits.

"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
oups.com...
our grand-children will all either be speaking Chinese, or Farsi.


Our schools are already teaching in two languages, English and Spanish.
At Parent/Teacher meetings, the entire discussion is translated into
spanish, LIVE. I had enough of it one day and asked the translator to
translate into Lao or Thai for my wife and me. I said that if they
were going to translate, than translate for everyone or not at all.
She said they are working on that. Oh Boy... What's wrong with just
plain English, if they don't understand now, they'll understand later.
If it gets translated for them now, they will always want it translated
for them. Am I wrong?



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Old October 2nd 05, 03:52 AM
Jay Masino
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zatatime wrote:
I knew it was some chemical mix, but does that actually "wash" the
plane? Maybe I'm being picky about the word but what chemicals can do
just seems a bit different to me.


No, it doesn't. The other Jay has been strangely obsessed about letting
water touch his plane for years. The rest of us have been washing our
planes for many more years, with no ill effect. If you're worried about
water remaining in some nook or cranny, just slap it around the pattern,
once, after you finish washing it. Jay's method of "washing" is really
just smearing the dirt around in a slurry of wax.

--- Jay


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http://www2.ari.net/jmasino ! ! !
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Old October 2nd 05, 02:23 PM
Jay Honeck
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I knew it was some chemical mix, but does that actually "wash" the
plane? Maybe I'm being picky about the word but what chemicals can do
just seems a bit different to me.


No, it doesn't. The other Jay has been strangely obsessed about letting
water touch his plane for years. The rest of us have been washing our
planes for many more years, with no ill effect. If you're worried about
water remaining in some nook or cranny, just slap it around the pattern,
once, after you finish washing it. Jay's method of "washing" is really
just smearing the dirt around in a slurry of wax.


Well, by using this method this "other Jay" fellow has 20 year old
paint on his motorcycle that still turns heads, and ten year old paint
on the plane that still wins admiring comments.

In my opinion, the only reason to ever wash a vehicle with water is if
it's been exposed to salt, which (unfortunately) happens frequently in
the Midwest. And even then it's the underside that really needs to be
flushed clean.

Since my airplane, motorcycle, and convertible never see salt, they
never see water. And they still look like they just rolled off the
assembly line.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old October 2nd 05, 02:26 PM
Jay Honeck
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our grand-children will all either be speaking Chinese, or Farsi.

Our schools are already teaching in two languages, English and Spanish.
At Parent/Teacher meetings, the entire discussion is translated into
spanish, LIVE. I had enough of it one day and asked the translator to
translate into Lao or Thai for my wife and me. I said that if they
were going to translate, than translate for everyone or not at all.
She said they are working on that. Oh Boy... What's wrong with just
plain English, if they don't understand now, they'll understand later.
If it gets translated for them now, they will always want it translated
for them. Am I wrong?


No. You are 100% on the mark.

If we ALL protest it, maybe the government "do-gooders" who mistakenly
think they're doing these people a favor will get the message?

As I've reported here before, when I'm presented with a credit card
machine that gives me a choice of languages (at Wal-Mart, for example)
I *always* complain. I feel sorry for the poor clerk who has to hear
it, but what other outlet do we really have?

If everyone bitched, this short-sighted stupidity would be corrected.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old October 2nd 05, 02:46 PM
Jay Masino
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Well, by using this method this "other Jay" fellow has 20 year old
paint on his motorcycle that still turns heads, and ten year old paint
on the plane that still wins admiring comments.


I agree with your method with respect to motorcycles. It's just too
difficult to get all the water spots, etc off the chrome and other nooks
and crannys. This doesn't extend to a painted airplane.

In my opinion, the only reason to ever wash a vehicle with water is if
it's been exposed to salt, which (unfortunately) happens frequently in
the Midwest. And even then it's the underside that really needs to be
flushed clean.


Other types of grease and grime can benefit from a good, soapy washing,
and it doesn't hurt anything in the airplane.



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http://www2.ari.net/jmasino ! ! !
http://www.OceanCityAirport.com
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