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"Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... "Michelle" wrote in message ink.net... Well I thought they were funny and not offensive.... That's great. But you're one of the rare women who have managed to ignore or get past the sexism in the aviation industry. That's good for you, but means you're not exactly representative of women generally. That's one helluva big hole you been digging here lately Pete ole boy. |
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In a perfect world, all jokes are equal and none are offensive.
uh, those aren't jokes. The basis of humor is generally to make light of someone's shortcomings....sometimes it's self-deprecating and the joke teller is the butt. Other times, it's about a person (in this case women) and most every time hyperbole is involved......Sorry, but humor is discriminatory by definition. If Utopia requires me to give up my differences (the good and the bad), then you can have it. I've never laughed at a joke that starts "A rabbi, a rabbi and a rabbi walk into a bar....." jf |
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In article , "Jeff" wrote:
In a perfect world, all jokes are equal and none are offensive. uh, those aren't jokes. The basis of humor is generally to make light of someone's shortcomings....sometimes it's self-deprecating and the joke teller is the butt. Other times, it's about a person (in this case women) and most every time hyperbole is involved......Sorry, but humor is discriminatory by definition. Humor is not discriminatory by definition. It can be, but is not always discriminatory. Example: Q. Why is Santa always so jolly??? A. Because he has the list of all the naughty girls. -- Bob Noel New NHL? what a joke |
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
... If you think you are being refused service simply because of your skin color, then you are being discriminated against. "If you think" is the standard to apply to determine discrimination? I hope you mistyped. Of course. It certainly could have been better worded. Perhaps "then you think you are being discriminated against" would have been better. |
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That's great. But you're one of the rare women who have managed to ignore or get past the sexism in the aviation industry. That's good for you, but means you're not exactly representative of women generally. I'm sure the fact that flying usually requires interest in flying, interest in systems and how the plane operates, interest in navigation, interest in weather and general interest in how things work has nothing to do with the rampant sexism you keep talking about. The reason women don't fly is that the majority of women DON'T WANT TO FLY!!! Now, you're going to say that women don't want to fly because we run a "he man woman haters club" in aviation. Bull. What most hangar flying, tire kickers have in common is the love of the things mentioned above. And for some God-given reason, most women aren't interested in that. Just like most mechanics aren't women and most cartographers aren't women. Don't get me wrong. 2 of the best pilots I know are women and have interests in all those things...but they are rare. Hey, guess what....High School teachers are 70% women nationwide! Oh my at the sexism!!!! And do you know what those women teachers do when they talk to each other? They talk about stuff that interests women teachers! Someone file a lawsuit at the heresy! jf |
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"Jeff" wrote in message
... In a perfect world, all jokes are equal and none are offensive. uh, those aren't jokes. We don't live in a perfect world. Nevertheless, it's absurd to claim that ALL jokes are offensive. There are plenty of jokes that are funny without making fun of anyone. Furthermore, I enjoy an offensive joke (nearly) as much as the next guy. The problem is when the joke is so blatantly out of place in a given context. |
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Humor is not discriminatory by definition. It can be, but is not always discriminatory. Example: Q. Why is Santa always so jolly??? A. Because he has the list of all the naughty girls. Ah, but you just pointed out that "naughty girls" are different. Maybe discriminatory isn't the right word.....segmenting might fit better? Someone has to be segmented from everyone else for it to be funny. |
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Bob Noel wrote:
Humor is not discriminatory by definition. It can be, but is not always discriminatory. Example: Q. Why is Santa always so jolly??? A. Because he has the list of all the naughty girls. ok, so now you have just antagonized the following groups: i- Santa worshipers who surely will be very offended ii- fundamentalist Christians who have been whining the whole season about the de-christianization of the season and how Santa is making their lives miserables; iii- feminists who are going to resent the whole concept of a) using the forbidden g- word (it's 'womyn' for you insensitive clod) and the implied notion that sub context that equals sexuality with naughtiness and I probably forgot a bunch of other oppressed groups, say, the PETRE just to name one (People for the Ethical Treatment of Reindeer and Elves) You can't win. And don't get started with the road crossing chickens, it only get worse. --Sylvain |
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("Dave Stadt" wrote)
That's one helluva big hole you been digging here lately Pete ole boy. There's a (FUNNY) South Park quip in there someplace :-) Montblack |
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City Dweller wrote:
Here you go. WHY AIRPLANES ARE BETTER THAN MEN -- An airplane NEVER leaves the toilet seat up. -- An airplane lasts longer than seven seconds. -- An airplane won't care if you gain five pounds. -- Flying an airplane can't make you pregnant. Peter, are you sure you are not a woman posting under a man's name? That's it! How could we have missed this for so long. It explains everything. :-) Matt |
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