#1 Piston Fighter was British

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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The Russians and the Germans fought hard an long and took great losses.
When we
came in we marched from D-Day to the Elbe in a mere 11 months. Get the
point?

cough cough ahem, the fact that there were a few other allied countries
involved escape your notice?

"Sunny" wrote in message
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cough cough ahem, the fact that there were a few other allied countries
involved escape your notice?


Much about the war escaped his notice.

Subject: #1 Piston Fighter was British
From: av8r
Date: 6/30/03 5:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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Hi Art

The following B-26 Marauder-equipped units of the 9th Air Force bombed
Utah Beach:

344th BG (Medium)
386th BG (Medium)
387th BG (Medium)

A total of 290 Marauders dropped 550 tons of assorted ordnance on the
beach with incredible accuracy. Bombing altitudes ranged from 1,600 to
3,000 feet depending on the cloud base.

As you know only 12 members of the 4th Infantry Division died on the
beach. Surprisingly, this was less than the number who died while
training back in England for the landing.

Cheers...Chris


Chris,

Thanks for all that good stuff. I appreciate it. And thanks for putting the
344th first. We did lead the way for the 9th Air Force that morning. Do you
have any record of the 322nd having been there? I always thought they went in
with us. All and any material on the 344th on D-day is very welcome. My
experioenceis form the nose of "Wil;lie the Wolf" but I never read any books on
the subject./
Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote

We did lead the way for the 9th Air Force that morning.

They sent the bombers in before the transports carrying the
82nd and 101st? Weren't those transports in the 9th?

Subject: #1 Piston Fighter was British
From: "Wolfie"
Date: 6/30/03 8:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: m


"ArtKramr" wrote

We did lead the way for the 9th Air Force that morning.

They sent the bombers in before the transports carrying the
82nd and 101st? Weren't those transports in the 9th?



Transports are not combat aircraft. We led the combat units of the 9th on that
morning. If you live near Stansted airport, see the plaque dedicated to the
344th that states that we led the charge for the 9th that morning. Stansted
airport was built for the 344th. Thy cleared and leveled a cowpasture, threw
down a runway put up a load of Neissen huts and we had an instant airfield.


Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote

We did lead the way for the 9th Air Force that morning.

They sent the bombers in before the transports carrying the
82nd and 101st? Weren't those transports in the 9th?

Transports are not combat aircraft. We led the combat units of the
9th on that morning.

The AF has always considered transports carrying paratroops
to drops to be aircraft fulfilling a combat role. What other
definition for "combat aircraft" is realistic? Sure, they need
fighter protection (or to fly at night), but so do/did most
bombers...

If you live near Stansted airport, see the plaque dedicated to the
344th that states that we led the charge for the 9th that morning.

Well, you know what they say about learning things from reading...

The 344th, AFAIK, led the *bombing* raids for the 9th on D-Day.

Doesn't the 9th AF Official History says a transport unit spearheaded
the 9th's efforts that day?

Subject: #1 Piston Fighter was British
From: "Wolfie"
Date: 6/30/03 10:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: m


"ArtKramr" wrote

We did lead the way for the 9th Air Force that morning.

They sent the bombers in before the transports carrying the
82nd and 101st? Weren't those transports in the 9th?

Transports are not combat aircraft. We led the combat units of the
9th on that morning.

The AF has always considered transports carrying paratroops
to drops to be aircraft fulfilling a combat role. What other
definition for "combat aircraft" is realistic? Sure, they need
fighter protection (or to fly at night), but so do/did most
bombers...

If you live near Stansted airport, see the plaque dedicated to the
344th that states that we led the charge for the 9th that morning.

Well, you know what they say about learning things from reading...

The 344th, AFAIK, led the *bombing* raids for the 9th on D-Day.

Doesn't the 9th AF Official History says a transport unit spearheaded
the 9th's efforts that day?


Transports don't carry guns or bombs.T

Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

In message , ArtKramr
writes

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Transports are not combat aircraft. We led the combat units of the 9th on that
morning. If you live near Stansted airport, see the plaque dedicated to the
344th that states that we led the charge for the 9th that morning. Stansted
airport was built for the 344th. Thy cleared and leveled a cowpasture, threw
down a runway put up a load of Neissen huts and we had an instant airfield.

Quibble

Nissan Huts

/Quibble

Mike

"M. J. Powell" wrote in message
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In message , ArtKramr
writes

snip

Transports are not combat aircraft. We led the combat units of the 9th on
that
morning. If you live near Stansted airport, see the plaque dedicated to
the
344th that states that we led the charge for the 9th that morning.
Stansted
airport was built for the 344th. Thy cleared and leveled a cowpasture,
threw
down a runway put up a load of Neissen huts and we had an instant
airfield.

Quibble

Nissan Huts

/Quibble

Mike

Nissen Hut surely, named after Peter Norman Nissen as I recall.

Keith

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Transports are not combat aircraft. We led the combat units of the
9th on that morning.


It appears you forgot you wrote, "We did lead the way for the 9th Air Force
that morning.", and not, "We did lead the way for 9th Air Force combat
aircraft that morning."