Military flight operations and the FAA

Tarver Engineering wrote:

I am not going to stew about the trolls of ram.

So instead of stewing, you prefer to repeatedly smash yourself
in the forehead with a cast-iron skillet in your vain attempts to
outsmart a world that is unilaterally smarter than you?

-Mike Marron

"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

That seems an alternate reality to the way major players at ram debate me.

Debate?!? "Debunk" is more accurate!

In a debate, both sides present evidence to substantiate their claims. In your
case, any substantiating evidence rarely makes it to the newsgroup, if it exists
at all...

"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

In Weiss' case, the only way he can compete is to change the subject.

Speaking of which...


Now Wess, don't let your support of squids killing Germans on Italian ski
lifts cloud your judgement. By the way, you never admitted you were wrong
then either.

I never supported any such thing! What was I "wrong" about?

"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

wrote in message
.. .

You forgot to mention that Rasimus lied about flying Thuds in SEA...

Ed had a pretty good sized mental block going and wrote a lot of things
about his airplane that are not true. That coupled with the large number of
managers being caught lying on their resumes made Ed's story incredible.
Now of course, Ed knows I believe him. Lying about F-105 flying is one of
the most common untruths told in corporate America.



John, you are more than welcome to come to any River Rats reunion and
discuss with my peers your estimation of my prevarication capacity.

You might also want to bring your charges to the attention of Chuck &
Mary Schantag who have dedicated themselves to exposing wannabes and
poseurs.

Oh, and be sure to forward your documentation to Smithsonian
Institution Press.

As for "lying about F-105 flying" being one of the most common
untruths told in corporate America--honestly, John, most of corporate
American doesn't even know that a war occurred in those years.

You remain one of the lowest, most despicable, forms of animal life.
For someone (and here, I begin to sound a bit like Art), who has never
been on either end of a shot fired in anger, to demean, discredit and
accuse without basis is an outrage.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (ret)
***"When Thunder Rolled:
*** An F-105 Pilot Over N. Vietnam"
*** from Smithsonian Books
ISBN: 1588341038

"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
...
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

wrote in message
.. .

You forgot to mention that Rasimus lied about flying Thuds in SEA...

Ed had a pretty good sized mental block going and wrote a lot of things
about his airplane that are not true. That coupled with the large number
of
managers being caught lying on their resumes made Ed's story incredible.
Now of course, Ed knows I believe him. Lying about F-105 flying is one
of
the most common untruths told in corporate America.

John, you are more than welcome to come to any River Rats reunion and
discuss with my peers your estimation of my prevarication capacity.

I no longer doubt you, Ed.

You might also want to bring your charges to the attention of Chuck &
Mary Schantag who have dedicated themselves to exposing wannabes and
poseurs.

About the time you left the ezine there were 4 VPs and CEOs removed for
claiming to be F-105 pilots in Viet Nam (WSJ) and probably a number of
others less well publicised.

Oh, and be sure to forward your documentation to Smithsonian
Institution Press.

Corporate America doesn't like folks lying on ther resumes. Being an F-105
pilot in Viet Nam is a big plus in upper management. Not just for the EOC
points, but also for the respect it deserves.

John P. Tarver, MS/PE
Electrical Engineer

"John R Weiss" wrote in message
news
"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

In Weiss' case, the only way he can compete is to change the subject.

Speaking of which...

Oh that's right, you wanted to talk about me.

Now Wess, don't let your support of squids killing Germans on Italian
ski
lifts cloud your judgement. By the way, you never admitted you were
wrong
then either.

I never supported any such thing! What was I "wrong" about?

It is a matter of permanent public usenet record, for all to read. In fact,
it is the first debate Weiss and I had at ram. I claimed it would be
dangerous to kill German civilians without severe sanctions against the
operator and Weiss thought it was no big deal, as "everybody does it".
Don't you remember what you write, John?

"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

It is a matter of permanent public usenet record, for all to read. In fact,
it is the first debate Weiss and I had at ram. I claimed it would be
dangerous to kill German civilians without severe sanctions against the
operator and Weiss thought it was no big deal, as "everybody does it".
Don't you remember what you write, John?

I remember what I write, and I never wrote what you claim. I will take your
failure to post the specific references as your admission you're either a liar
or delusional.

"John R Weiss" wrote in message
news
"Tarver Engineering" wrote...

It is a matter of permanent public usenet record, for all to read. In
fact,
it is the first debate Weiss and I had at ram. I claimed it would be
dangerous to kill German civilians without severe sanctions against the
operator and Weiss thought it was no big deal, as "everybody does it".
Don't you remember what you write, John?

I remember what I write, and I never wrote what you claim. I will take
your
failure to post the specific references as your admission you're either a
liar
or delusional.

You can search your own posts up, Weiss, or if you decide to self destruct,
like Dudley, mayble I'll help.

Ed Rasimus wrote:

"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

wrote...

You forgot to mention that Rasimus lied about flying Thuds in SEA...

Ed had a pretty good sized mental block going and wrote a lot of things
about his airplane that are not true. That coupled with the large number of
managers being caught lying on their resumes made Ed's story incredible.
Now of course, Ed knows I believe him. Lying about F-105 flying is one of
the most common untruths told in corporate America.

John, you are more than welcome to come to any River Rats reunion and
discuss with my peers your estimation of my prevarication capacity.

You might also want to bring your charges to the attention of Chuck &
Mary Schantag who have dedicated themselves to exposing wannabes and
poseurs.

Oh, and be sure to forward your documentation to Smithsonian
Institution Press.

As for "lying about F-105 flying" being one of the most common
untruths told in corporate America--honestly, John, most of corporate
American doesn't even know that a war occurred in those years.

You remain one of the lowest, most despicable, forms of animal life.
For someone (and here, I begin to sound a bit like Art), who has never
been on either end of a shot fired in anger, to demean, discredit and
accuse without basis is an outrage.

The difference between you and Art is that you've got a valid
target.


Billy

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