Which aircraft will live in history forever?

"Darrell A. Larose" wrote in message
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Scott Ferrin ) writes:

The Hurricane played a big role in the Battle of Britain, and got little
of the glory. The Tempest was a mud mover used in ground attack, it was
the A-10 of WWII. Came after the BoB in about 1944 TOS.


No that was the Typhoon.

The Tempest was its sibling but was mainly used to shoot
down the V1's as it was about the fastest of the piston engined
fighter aircraft and was replaced in RAF service by Vampire
and Maeteor jets.

Keith

I couldn't remember if the
Battle of Britain fighter was the Spitfire or Tempest :-)

It was the Hurricane, mostly.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Bjørnar" wrote in message
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Scott Ferrin wrote in
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Wright Flyer
B-29 (nuked Japan)
U-2 (Cold War Symbol)
Concord
SR-71
Harrier (First real VTOL)
B-52 (if it ever *becomes* "history")
Me 262
X-1
X-15
KC-135


(there are lots of candidates such as the F-4, Mig-21, Zero, P-51,
etc. etc. but I think the above are unique and for that reason will
stand out)

And, perhaps, the most noteworthy aircrafts in history?

Spitfire (Battle of Britain)
DC-3 Dakota (worlds workhorse and lifesaviour)
Fokker Dr.1 (Red Baron)


Regards...

Just refinding (if that's even a word) this group, In addition to the
tribute to the DC-3 (C-47) I'm glad to see someone point out that the F-4
Phantom should be included. Although my 4 years service in the AF in the
early 70's was primarily SR-71 EMR shop the F-4's were the ones making the
real headlines at the time in SEA. What a workhorse...And I say that with
affection because it saved so many of our guys lives on the ground. Also,
the Concorde - we now have one at the Museum of Flight - what a sight that
machine is and certainly served with distinction!
Thanks...
RichT

(ArtKramr) wrote in message ...
Which ones?

Wright Flyer
Fokker Dr1
Spitfire
P-51

The Wright Flyer will be preserved by the academics, if any plane ever
is. The Fokker and the Spit were legends in their own days, and those
legends have endured. I assume the P-51 has the same sort of standing
on the US side of the Atlantic as the Spit has in Western Europe. We
might want to add the Messerschmidt name to the list, but not
associated with any particular type.

There are some modern contenders, but they're too new to guess whether
or not they'll last.

This is all based on 'living in history' interpreted as being somewhat
known to the public. This disqualifies many very worthy planes with a
less glamourous image. With the amount of recording going on this past
century, I don't think many airplanes will be truly forgotton, barring
a total collapse of society as we know it.

Rob

Subject: Which aircraft will live in history forever?
From: (Rob van Riel)
Date: 11/27/03 1:29 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

(ArtKramr) wrote in message
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Which ones?

Wright Flyer
Fokker Dr1
Spitfire
P-51

The Wright Flyer will be preserved by the academics, if any plane ever
is. The Fokker and the Spit were legends in their own days, and those
legends have endured. I assume the P-51 has the same sort of standing
on the US side of the Atlantic as the Spit has in Western Europe. We
might want to add the Messerschmidt name to the list, but not
associated with any particular type.

There are some modern contenders, but they're too new to guess whether
or not they'll last.

This is all based on 'living in history' interpreted as being somewhat
known to the public. This disqualifies many very worthy planes with a
less glamourous image. With the amount of recording going on this past
century, I don't think many airplanes will be truly forgotton, barring
a total collapse of society as we know it.

Rob


Rob,

Thanks for adding reasons for your choices

Regards,

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

01. Zeppelin
02. Wright Flyer
03. Bleriot Monoplane
04. Fokkers: Eindecker, DR.I, D V.II
05. Sopwith Camel
06. Boeing Clippers
07. Ju 87 Stuka
08. Me Bf 109
09. Fw 190
10. Me-262
11. Supermarine Spitfire
12. Hawker Hurricane
13. Avro Lancaster
14. DeHavilland Mosquito
15. Hawker Typhoon/Tempest
16. Gloster Meteor
17. B-17 Flying Fortress
18. North American P-51 Mustang
19. Republic P-47 Thunderbolt
20. Lockheed P-38 Lightning
21. B-29 Superfortress (Enola Gay)
22. Mitsubishi A6/M-2 Zero
23. MiG-15
24. F-86 Sabre
25. Canberra
26. B-52 Stratofortess
27. F-4 Phantom
28. Avro Vulcan
29. Harrier
30. SR-71 Blackbird
31. MiG-25 Foxbat
32. Boeing 747
33. Concorde
34. F-15 Eagle
35. Space Shuttle
36. F-117 Nighthawk
37. Su 27 Flanker
38. Panavia Tornado
39. Airbus A.380
40. Solar Sail

Rob

2 cancelled projects deserve to be there too:

01. CF-105 Arrow
02. BAC TSR-2

As for rotaty-wings, my vote goes to the UH-1 Huey, for defining
the the role of the helicopter in modern combat and rescue, and
for beeing perhaps the most famous helicopter of all times.

If not the Bell 47, the pioneer which turned the helicopter concept
into a true efficient and reliable utility platform.

Then I guess the Sikorsky S61/Westlang Seaking, for its invaluable
role especially in maritime SAR operations worldwide.

Then the AH-1 Cobra, for being the first true helicopter gunship
and tankbuster.


Regards...

As for rotaty-wings, my vote goes to the UH-1 Huey, for defining
the the role of the helicopter in modern combat and rescue, and
for beeing perhaps the most famous helicopter of all times.

Yes, definitely the Huey. I spent as many Huey hours helicopter skiing
in Canada as I did hitchhiking around Vietnam, but it is the heat and
the rain forest that give me a flash when I hear the whump-whump of
those Huey rotors overhead.

Speaking of longevity -- surely an important factor in living in
history -- the army has just ordered a new iteration of the Huey. Or
so I recall from a recent Aero-News email.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Flyer
Gooney Bird
Fortress
Mustang
Corsair
SuperFort
Connie
StratoFort
StratoFreighter (Dash 80)
JumboJet
HABU


ArtKramr wrote:
Which ones?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Flyer The First (inspiration)
Gooney Bird Tireless Workhorse
Fortress Indestructible (almost)
Mustang Hot Rod
Corsair King of the Pacific
SuperFort War Ender
Connie Queen of the Skies
StratoFort Immortal
StratoFreighter (Dash 80) Jet Age
JumboJet Jumbo Jet
HABU Pinnacle


KenG wrote:

Flyer
Gooney Bird
Fortress
Mustang
Corsair
SuperFort
Connie
StratoFort
StratoFreighter (Dash 80)
JumboJet
HABU


ArtKramr wrote:

Which ones?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer