report runway incursion non-towered airport?

mindenpilot wrote:
.........
I'd like to think that if I ever made a mistake (wrong frequency, etc),
someone would cut me some slack.

Exactly. Once I punched up the wrong frequency at my own field... I was
looking all around as I taxied and made my calls. I saw and heard no one
else in the pattern or on the field as I took the runway and departed.
It wasn't until I was airborne and still hearing silence that I took a
close look at the radio and noticed it was on the wrong frequency! DOH!

If there is no activity on the field nowadays I call up UNICOM for a radio
check.

"Joe Johnson" wrote in message
...

Should I report this to the FAA? If so, how? When in the course of an
aviation career does someone become so complacent that they don't say
"boo"
before taking an active runway?

If you report it, it's your word against his. Whose to say you were on the
right frequency? Or that you didn't have the volume turned down because you
were listening to AWOS on the other radio?

My feeling is never involve the FAA in anything if avoidable.

Michael

Michael 182 wrote:

If you report it, it's your word against his. Whose to say you were on the
right frequency? Or that you didn't have the volume turned down because you
were listening to AWOS on the other radio?

It really is irrelevant whether the OP and/or the pilot of the Citation
were on the correct frequency. The OP could have been a nordo Cub.

The claim that the Citation pilot allegedly entered the runway in front of
an aircraft on short final is the issue being discussed here.

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"Peter R." wrote in message
...
Michael 182 wrote:

If you report it, it's your word against his. Whose to say you were on
the
right frequency? Or that you didn't have the volume turned down because
you
were listening to AWOS on the other radio?

It really is irrelevant whether the OP and/or the pilot of the Citation
were on the correct frequency. The OP could have been a nordo Cub.

The claim that the Citation pilot allegedly entered the runway in front of
an aircraft on short final is the issue being discussed here.

--
Peter

Good point - I missed that on the original post. However, I'd still avoid
the FAA at all costs...

Michael

"Peter R." wrote in message
...

It really is irrelevant whether the OP and/or the pilot of the Citation
were on the correct frequency. The OP could have been a nordo Cub.

The claim that the Citation pilot allegedly entered the runway in front of
an aircraft on short final is the issue being discussed here.


What's short final? Aircraft enter runways and takeoff in front of aircraft
on final regularly without mishap. I believe the OP said he was on a on 1/4
to 1/2 mile final. Maybe. Maybe not. Many pilots are absolutely horrible
at judging distance. There may have been plenty of room.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

I believe the OP said he was on a on 1/4
to 1/2 mile final. Maybe. Maybe not. Many pilots are absolutely horrible
at judging distance. There may have been plenty of room.

Hence my use of the word "allegedly."

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What's short final? Aircraft enter runways and takeoff in front of
aircraft on final regularly without mishap.

Short enough that he had to do a 360 instead of continuing in for landing.
I think the fact that he had to take evasive action means that the Citation
wasn't paying attention.

Adam

"mindenpilot" wrote in message
...

Short enough that he had to do a 360 instead of continuing in for landing.
I think the fact that he had to take evasive action means that the
Citation wasn't paying attention.


We don't know that it was short enough that he HAD to do a 360 instead of
continuing in for landing. We don't know that he HAD to take evasive
action.

"mindenpilot" wrote in message
...
What's short final? Aircraft enter runways and takeoff in front of
aircraft on final regularly without mishap.

Short enough that he had to do a 360 instead of continuing in for landing.
I think the fact that he had to take evasive action means that the
Citation
wasn't paying attention.

Adam

Hi Adam. I didn't think the pilot was paying attention from the time I saw
him/her on the taxiway. That's when I started making contingency plans.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

What's short final? Aircraft enter runways and takeoff in front of
aircraft
on final regularly without mishap.

Absolutely. I've been asked by ATC to make "short approach" in front of
faster aircraft multiple times. I'm comfortable with that as I trained at a
very busy class D field. Sometimes I've accepted and sometimes I've
declined. But everyone's on the radio and knows what's going on...

I believe the OP said he was on a on 1/4
to 1/2 mile final. Maybe. Maybe not. Many pilots are absolutely
horrible
at judging distance. There may have been plenty of room.

I substantially agree. That's why I gave the estimate a wide margin. I was
doing about 70 knots, so splitting the difference between my estimates would
give about 20 seconds. There would have been much less time if the Citation
had pulled out as I was crossing the threshold.