EPA update

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:yDCRe.2960$Aw1.2845@trndny02...

Skylune is using every weapon at his disposal to make pilots lives
miserable.

His mode of operation has been to complain to every authority who will
listen about everything he can think of that aviators do wrong.

I wouldn't worry too much about this guy - the people he is complaining to
are quite familiar with his type, and his hidden selfish agenda.

If the FBO is violating local or federal regulations then they should get
themselves into compliance. That goes without saying regardless of whether
someone dumb enough to buy a house near an airport thinking it would be
quiet there points it out or not.

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 13:27:11 GMT, "BDS"
wrote in
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"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:yDCRe.2960$Aw1.2845@trndny02...

Skylune is using every weapon at his disposal to make pilots lives
miserable.

His mode of operation has been to complain to every authority who will
listen about everything he can think of that aviators do wrong.

I wouldn't worry too much about this guy - the people he is complaining to
are quite familiar with his type, and his hidden selfish agenda.

If the FBO is violating local or federal regulations then they should get
themselves into compliance. That goes without saying regardless of whether
someone dumb enough to buy a house near an airport thinking it would be
quiet there points it out or not.


A voice of reason at last. Thank you.

As for your first sentence, perhaps you might re-read the original post and
the e-mail I received from the EPA representative. You may read it a
dismissive, but I certainly don't. Also, informing the public last year
about the airport's plans to extract (more) tax dollars in order to avoid
raising user fees might have had an effect -- I can't be sure if it was my
editiorial or city budget-makers already knew about this attempted raid on
the city coffers. Either way, the tax money will not be in the airport's
budget next year. :-)

Second sentence. Obviously this is true, but many of the antagonistic
fliers who post here want this regulation overturned because they feel it
doesn't make sense. But all they do is whine about it, rather than do
some actual work and lobby their elected officials to change the reg.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could all just obey the rules we agree with?

As for your last sentence, define "near." Are their ANY areas in the
northeast that are not "near" an airport. Or should the entire
northeastern US have an avigation easement for your private benefit??

As I stated, i bought the property about 15 years ago, making sure to
avoid the pattern and areas parallel to the runways. I'm about 5 nm from
the airport. We get buzzed regularly by low flying flights as it is
(wasn't that way 15 years ago, and I WAS THERE FIRST), and now, the
airport wants to expand (or, as they call runway extensions or second
runway contruction, "improve").

No one here (with the exception of Steve Foley) has responded with
anything other than personal attacks or absurd (Dighera) suggestions.
They must be using Phil Boyer logic.

You are within the airspace of a class D airport (so this pretty much
prevents people from endlessly circling your house). But it looks like your
deed is dated last year, not fifteen years ago.

By the way, the airport isn't expanding to accomodate GA aircraft. Nobody I
know with a light aircraft needs over 5000 feet to take off or land.


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

As for your last sentence, define "near." Are their ANY areas in the
northeast that are not "near" an airport. Or should the entire
northeastern US have an avigation easement for your private benefit??

As I stated, i bought the property about 15 years ago, making sure to
avoid the pattern and areas parallel to the runways. I'm about 5 nm from
the airport. We get buzzed regularly by low flying flights as it is
(wasn't that way 15 years ago, and I WAS THERE FIRST), and now, the
airport wants to expand (or, as they call runway extensions or second
runway contruction, "improve").

No one here (with the exception of Steve Foley) has responded with
anything other than personal attacks or absurd (Dighera) suggestions.
They must be using Phil Boyer logic.

Deed dates may be misleading as he could been divorced or put the
property into a trust. You have to go back to the last true sale not the
last transfer.

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:sIGRe.9335$fP.6886@trndny08...
You are within the airspace of a class D airport (so this pretty much
prevents people from endlessly circling your house). But it looks like
your
deed is dated last year, not fifteen years ago.

By the way, the airport isn't expanding to accomodate GA aircraft.
Nobody I
know with a light aircraft needs over 5000 feet to take off or land.


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

As for your last sentence, define "near." Are their ANY areas in the
northeast that are not "near" an airport. Or should the entire
northeastern US have an avigation easement for your private benefit??

As I stated, i bought the property about 15 years ago, making sure to
avoid the pattern and areas parallel to the runways. I'm about 5 nm
from
the airport. We get buzzed regularly by low flying flights as it is
(wasn't that way 15 years ago, and I WAS THERE FIRST), and now, the
airport wants to expand (or, as they call runway extensions or second
runway contruction, "improve").

No one here (with the exception of Steve Foley) has responded with
anything other than personal attacks or absurd (Dighera) suggestions.
They must be using Phil Boyer logic.

Six hundred thousand constitutes a sale in by book.

"sfb" wrote in message news:zTHRe.42952$yv2.29226@trnddc04...
Deed dates may be misleading as he could been divorced or put the
property into a trust. You have to go back to the last true sale not the
last transfer.

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:sIGRe.9335$fP.6886@trndny08...
You are within the airspace of a class D airport (so this pretty much
prevents people from endlessly circling your house). But it looks like
your
deed is dated last year, not fifteen years ago.

By the way, the airport isn't expanding to accomodate GA aircraft.
Nobody I
know with a light aircraft needs over 5000 feet to take off or land.


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

As for your last sentence, define "near." Are their ANY areas in the
northeast that are not "near" an airport. Or should the entire
northeastern US have an avigation easement for your private benefit??

As I stated, i bought the property about 15 years ago, making sure to
avoid the pattern and areas parallel to the runways. I'm about 5 nm
from
the airport. We get buzzed regularly by low flying flights as it is
(wasn't that way 15 years ago, and I WAS THERE FIRST), and now, the
airport wants to expand (or, as they call runway extensions or second
runway contruction, "improve").

No one here (with the exception of Steve Foley) has responded with
anything other than personal attacks or absurd (Dighera) suggestions.
They must be using Phil Boyer logic.

Sounds like you nailed him, but he was allowed the benefit of the doubt.

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:YkIRe.6526$Ni1.3953@trndny03...
Six hundred thousand constitutes a sale in by book.

"sfb" wrote in message
news:zTHRe.42952$yv2.29226@trnddc04...
Deed dates may be misleading as he could been divorced or put the
property into a trust. You have to go back to the last true sale not
the
last transfer.

"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:sIGRe.9335$fP.6886@trndny08...
You are within the airspace of a class D airport (so this pretty
much
prevents people from endlessly circling your house). But it looks
like
your
deed is dated last year, not fifteen years ago.

By the way, the airport isn't expanding to accomodate GA aircraft.
Nobody I
know with a light aircraft needs over 5000 feet to take off or
land.


"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...

As for your last sentence, define "near." Are their ANY areas in
the
northeast that are not "near" an airport. Or should the entire
northeastern US have an avigation easement for your private
benefit??

As I stated, i bought the property about 15 years ago, making sure
to
avoid the pattern and areas parallel to the runways. I'm about 5
nm
from
the airport. We get buzzed regularly by low flying flights as it
is
(wasn't that way 15 years ago, and I WAS THERE FIRST), and now,
the
airport wants to expand (or, as they call runway extensions or
second
runway contruction, "improve").

No one here (with the exception of Steve Foley) has responded with
anything other than personal attacks or absurd (Dighera)
suggestions.
They must be using Phil Boyer logic.

Nailed me? I think not. Check the older records too..... Also check
out Long Island real estate while you're at it.....

But you're right about GA not needing over 5,000 SF. The airport is
saying that it is not an expansion, so why do they want another thousand
feet?? Fed Ex charters, anyone????

Property transferred in 68,92,98,99 and 04. As far as I can tell, the
property in question was never located on Long Island. But if it was, I can
see why you're upset about it being moved so close to an airport.

"Skylune" wrote in message
lkaboutaviation.com...
Nailed me? I think not. Check the older records too..... Also check
out Long Island real estate while you're at it.....

But you're right about GA not needing over 5,000 SF. The airport is
saying that it is not an expansion, so why do they want another thousand
feet?? Fed Ex charters, anyone????

It's 5,000 LF not SF, there's a BIG difference, but I'm sure it was
just a typo on your part.

Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone