D'oh! A new first...

flakes
"Jim Macklin" wrote
in message news:H1O8g.18385$ZW3.12834@dukeread04...
| Some engine blocks are cast iron and if the
| water/anti-freeze solution is not proper ph, the iron will
| rust and flacks will circulate into the heater core until
it
| is plugged. It can also cause corrosion of the aluminum.
|
| The best way to flush the system is in reverse so you need
a
| water hose and some connections, best and cheapest is to
| take it to a radiator shop. How much are the new carpets?
|
| Any computers mounted on the floor under the seats?
|
|
|
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| "Skywise" wrote in message
| ...
|| Ok...here's my car D'oh!!!
||
|| I had been having problems with the heater core rusting
| out.
|| Long story short, the new after-market aluminum cores do
| not
|| like the green anti-freeze. So after putting in the 4th
| core
|| in about two years and finally learning about this
| problem,
|| I was changing to the new orange stuff.
||
|| But when I was switching over, I needed to flush the
| system.
|| So, I disconnected one of the hoses that goes through the
|| firewall to the heater core to act as the drain and then
| put
|| the hose in the filler cap and let 'er run, flushing the
| old
|| stuff out.
||
|| I went back in the house and came out about 10-15 minutes
|| later to finihs things up. Upon opening the door to the
| car
|| I discovered water 6 inches deep inside!!!
||
|| Turned out the hose I used as a drain was splashing the
| water
|| against the firewall, which was not water tight. The
water
|| was running down the firewall and leaking through along
| the
|| bottom edge at a joint.
||
|| D'OH!!!
||
|| BTW, since changing to the new orange anti-freeze, I've
| not
|| had to replace the core....yet.
||
|| Brian
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Astronomy,
| Skepticism
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|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in
news:H1O8g.18385$ZW3.12834@dukeread04:

Some engine blocks are cast iron and if the
water/anti-freeze solution is not proper ph, the iron will
rust and flacks will circulate into the heater core until it
is plugged. It can also cause corrosion of the aluminum.

Interesting. I'm not sure about the block off hand, but the
heads are aluminum. I know as one had to be replaced and I
have the old one as a door stop.

How I found out about the need to use the different anti-freeze
was when I called a Chevy dealer repair shop and told him what
was happening. The guy knew about the problem and said that
they hadn't known about it themselves until recently. They had
the same problem on a customers pickup with the main radiator
and had to replace it several times for free when it kept
corroding out every two months before they finally found out
about it. They said it was specifically an incompatability with
aluminum and the green fluid. So far (knock on wood) I've not
had a problem since changing to the orange stuff.


The best way to flush the system is in reverse so you need a
water hose and some connections, best and cheapest is to
take it to a radiator shop. How much are the new carpets?

Any computers mounted on the floor under the seats?

Fortunately, no. The computer is under the dash.

Although it took a while to get the carpets dried out,
they're fine.

Brian
--
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Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

There are many aluminum alloys, some are better for certain
purposes than others. I use distilled water rather than
city tap water and mix that with the anti-freeze. It
doesn't cost more than a dollar a gallon and keeps the
minerals out of the cooling system.


"Skywise" wrote in message
...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in
| news:H1O8g.18385$ZW3.12834@dukeread04:
|
| Some engine blocks are cast iron and if the
| water/anti-freeze solution is not proper ph, the iron
will
| rust and flacks will circulate into the heater core
until it
| is plugged. It can also cause corrosion of the
aluminum.
|
| Interesting. I'm not sure about the block off hand, but
the
| heads are aluminum. I know as one had to be replaced and I
| have the old one as a door stop.
|
| How I found out about the need to use the different
anti-freeze
| was when I called a Chevy dealer repair shop and told him
what
| was happening. The guy knew about the problem and said
that
| they hadn't known about it themselves until recently. They
had
| the same problem on a customers pickup with the main
radiator
| and had to replace it several times for free when it kept
| corroding out every two months before they finally found
out
| about it. They said it was specifically an incompatability
with
| aluminum and the green fluid. So far (knock on wood) I've
not
| had a problem since changing to the orange stuff.
|
|
| The best way to flush the system is in reverse so you
need a
| water hose and some connections, best and cheapest is to
| take it to a radiator shop. How much are the new
carpets?
|
| Any computers mounted on the floor under the seats?
|
| Fortunately, no. The computer is under the dash.
|
| Although it took a while to get the carpets dried out,
| they're fine.
|
| Brian
| --
| http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy,
Skepticism
| Seismic FAQ:
http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
| Quake "predictions":
http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
| Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

"Jim Macklin" wrote in
news:vMY8g.18413$ZW3.16334@dukeread04:

There are many aluminum alloys, some are better for certain
purposes than others. I use distilled water rather than
city tap water and mix that with the anti-freeze. It
doesn't cost more than a dollar a gallon and keeps the
minerals out of the cooling system.
Snipola

Interesting.

But wouldn't that cause problems? I mean, it's bad to drink
distilled water because it has no minerals. The pH level
causes minerals in your body to leach out. Would not something
similar happen to the engine?

I know from my knowledge of lasers that very pure de-ionized
water is used to cool them becasuse the water is in direct
contact with the electrodes. The water needs constant filtering
to remain pure becuase it leaches minerals off the metal parts
and if allowed to build up, the water becomes conductive.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

You wasted 30 Gallons of Gas!


Do you know how many hours of flight time that would pay for nowadays?!?!

Out here in New York that would pay the salaries of your entire kitchen
staff for a week!



"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:1147232294.578773.197660
@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

After 'Movie Night' concluded tonight (a double feature, BTW, with the
REAL "Memphis Belle" World War II documentary film, and "One Six Right"
-- the absolutely terrific movie about Van Nuys airport, released last
fall) -- one of our guests for the night, a pipeline pilot, asked to
borrow our courtesy van to fetch a bite to eat.

He came back in a couple of minutes later, to report that the battery
was dead, and that he had found the key turned to the "on" position.
None of us could figure out why anyone would do that, when it suddenly
dawned on me...

...I had moved the van back three feet to mow the grass. The front
bumper was overhanging the lawn, and I only needed to move it a bit.
However, I didn't want to just start it and stop it right away, cuz it
hadn't been run in a week, so I left it to warm up, and resumed mowing
the lawn.

That was last week, Friday. Today is Tuesday.

It had a full tank. 30 U.S. gallons...

:-(
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Judah" wrote in message
. ..
You wasted 30 Gallons of Gas!


Do you know how many hours of flight time that would pay for nowadays?!?!

Less than one?

Do you know how many hours of flight time that would pay for nowadays?!?!

Less than one?

Actually, two -- in just plain fuel costs.

I try not to dwell on all the rest...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Do you know how many hours of flight time that would pay for nowadays?!?!

Less than one?

Actually, two -- in just plain fuel costs.

Out here in LaLa Land, the local news just did a breathless story with
security cameras that taped a guy in an RV siphoning gas from a
delivery truck and a van in a parking lot late at night.

They said $1800 worth of gas was taken.

I didn't bother calling the station. If they really think RV's have a
500 gallon tank on board, who am I to correct them.

BTW, Jay, are you still able to buy non-blended mogas? I've been
looking around So. Cal and I can't find any here. I hate to run 100 LL
in a 2 stroke, but it looks like I won't have a choice.

("Richard Riley" wrote)
BTW, Jay, are you still able to buy non-blended mogas? I've been looking
around So. Cal and I can't find any here. I hate to run 100 LL in a 2
stroke, but it looks like I won't have a choice.


My experience driving all around Iowa last year was, only a few pumps have
Ethanol blends in them - everything else is mostly non-blended mogas.

The opposite is true in the Twin Cities - and much of Minnesota.
99.5% of ALL pumps have Ethanol blends. You have to hunt for the rare
station that has one pump set aside for "Ethanol Free/Non-Oxygenated"
....it's usually Premium gas. One pump out of many... might as well sell the
expensive stuff.


Montblack

BTW, Jay, are you still able to buy non-blended mogas? I've been
looking around So. Cal and I can't find any here. I hate to run 100 LL
in a 2 stroke, but it looks like I won't have a choice.

It was good talking to you yesterday, Richard!

As we discussed, despite the fact that Iowa is "to blame" for ethanol,
we still have no trouble finding ethanol-free mogas.

Thank goodness. God only knows how much longer this situation will
last...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"