Instrument training

and a beer!
God, I remember doing my IR... seems like it took forever.
Did most of it at night, in the winter.... shovel snow to get the hanger
open every night... freeze my butt off until the hood came on then sweat so
much that I'd demand that the heat be off and I'd have to peel down to my
shirt sleeves. Surprised I didn't catch pneumonia.

I think a big part of my willingness to keep going was that soaked shirt,
sigh of relief, and a beer with my instructor afterwards. I could always
depend on my instructor to either congratulate what I'd been doing right or
explain what I was doing wrong after each lesson. I always learned more
before and after the lesson than while in the airplane.

Jim

"Maule Driver" wrote in message
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I always finished my lessons with a soaked shirt and a sigh of relief.
Nothing better!

xxx wrote:
I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?

xxx wrote:
I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?

Because it will save your life someday. And maybe somebody else's, too.

xxx wrote:
I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?

Join the club. We all had to go through it. But in the end it
will make you a better pilot and in the end you will take pride
in the precision with which you aviate, navigate & communicate.

Hang in there.

xxx wrote:

I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Can anyone remind me why I'm inflicting this on myself?


Can't say what your reasons are, but for me, you can't do Angel Flights
without the IR.

IR can be fun if you think of it as flying a spaceship - or maybe a
submarine - in that you get there by wit, skill, instruments and....

lots of ATC help ;^)


--
Saville

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xxx wrote:

I've got about 6 hours now and find it not the slightest bit
fun.

Others have mentioned the instructor as a possible issue. But I recall how,
early in my training, I tried several different "view limiting devices"
before I found one (Foggles) that I disliked the least.

As much as I did enjoy the IR training, I never grew to like the foggles.
It was especially bad when I got a new pair of glasses that were smaller in
the vertical dimension than my previous pair. The area blocked by the
foggles covered most of my corrected vision range.

In other words, I was now trying to read charts w/o vision correction.

Needless to say, I made a style change after that.

If you're lucky, once you get far enough into the training, you'll spend
more time in actual. That's not only good training, but also time free of
the foggles.

- Andrew

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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xxx wrote:

If you're lucky, once you get far enough into the training, you'll spend
more time in actual. That's not only good training, but also time free of
the foggles.

Yea, flying under the foggles sucks.
Flying under IMC rocks. And you got to fly IMC if you want to realize how
worthless our sense of balance is without visual reference. I had read about
it before, but it wasn't until I flew IMC till I realized how much our
senses suck in that respect.

Guillermo wrote:

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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xxx wrote:

If you're lucky, once you get far enough into the training, you'll spend
more time in actual. That's not only good training, but also time free of
the foggles.


Yea, flying under the foggles sucks.
Flying under IMC rocks. And you got to fly IMC if you want to realize how
worthless our sense of balance is without visual reference. I had read about
it before, but it wasn't until I flew IMC till I realized how much our
senses suck in that respect.



I took a lot of my training at night (it was in the winter in the
northeast) and many nights I really didn't need much view limiting ...
especially when it was snowing. :-) I found learning at night made it
much easier to fly in IMC in the day. If you can fly and read the
charts in the dark, doing same during the day is a piece of cake.


Matt

Guillermo wrote:

Flying under IMC rocks.

I've flown my wife in the clouds two really good times. Once we were
cruising just about (and slightly in) a layer. Another time we flew
amongst tiny little buildups.

It was fun to finally share these views with her.

We were "cotton balled" only one. That was kind of dull...but it was fun
when the world reappeared.

- Andrew

I HATE the foggles. I am required to wear reading glasses when I fly,
and for good reason. I need them to read charts, plates, and GPS.
They work fine. But putting on the foggles makes me unable to read
even with the glasses. So I have to look down, raise the foggles
enough to be able to read, and then replace them. It sucks.

Ross,
Have you tried bifocal or variable focus glasses? We use them with
the Flipup JeffShades which are quite comfortable.