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Old November 21st 06, 01:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Macklin
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Default VFR position reporting

Not necessarily. Read the AIM.



"BT" wrote in message
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| if you are making position reports
| do you not then have flight following?
| BT
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| "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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| I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position
reports if you
| are flying VFR over long distances without flight
following. To whom
| do you report your position, and what information should
it include?
| Which positions do you report and how often?
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Old November 21st 06, 03:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
BT
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Default VFR position reporting

I agree Jim... but Mxs is a non pilot..
it is a matter of semantics..

BT

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Not necessarily. Read the AIM.



"BT" wrote in message
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| if you are making position reports
| do you not then have flight following?
| BT
|
| "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
| ...
| I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position
reports if you
| are flying VFR over long distances without flight
following. To whom
| do you report your position, and what information should
it include?
| Which positions do you report and how often?
|
| --
| Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
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Old November 21st 06, 05:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Jim Macklin
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Default VFR position reporting

I've stopped posting answers for him, but do to help the
real student pilots out there.



"BT" wrote in message
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|I agree Jim... but Mxs is a non pilot..
| it is a matter of semantics..
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| BT
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| Not necessarily. Read the AIM.
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| "BT" wrote in message
| ...
| | if you are making position reports
| | do you not then have flight following?
| | BT
| |
| | "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
| | ...
| | I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for
position
| reports if you
| | are flying VFR over long distances without flight
| following. To whom
| | do you report your position, and what information
should
| it include?
| | Which positions do you report and how often?
| |
| | --
| | Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
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Old November 21st 06, 06:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
A Lieberma
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Default VFR position reporting

"Jim Macklin" wrote in
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I've stopped posting answers for him, but do to help the
real student pilots out there.


Hopefully others will follow so the noise level will go down. I have been
suggesting this for the past month.

I sure am doing my best not to respond *smile*.

Ignore him and he should go away once everybody does not respond to his
nonsensible replies.

Peer pressure can do wonders in this case by virtual of silence or no
replies.

Allen
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Old November 21st 06, 02:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Default VFR position reporting

BT writes:

if you are making position reports
do you not then have flight following?


No, they are two different things. Normally you have one or the
other. If you have flight following, ATC has you on radar, and they
don't need position reports, as they know exactly where you are. If
you don't have flight following (because you haven't requested it, or
ATC has refused it, or you are not visible on radar), you can make
periodic position reports, so that people know where you are, in case
you crash.

From what I understand, you try to report to a FSS if you are making
position reports, but I'm not sure of the other details.

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Old November 21st 06, 03:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
BT
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Default VFR position reporting

ok.. so once again the non pilot asking so many questions knows better than
30yr multi thousand hour pilots.

I fully understand the "radar flight following", but I can make position
reports to FSS and they will know where to begin looking for me (between my
last report and my intended destination), so they would have a "flight
following paper trail" of where I have been, even if it is not real time
radar.

From what you tend to know or have about flight following or position
reporting, that same book will (should) have the format for position
reporting.

Oh, while you've got them on the line, give them a pilot report.

BT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

if you are making position reports
do you not then have flight following?


No, they are two different things. Normally you have one or the
other. If you have flight following, ATC has you on radar, and they
don't need position reports, as they know exactly where you are. If
you don't have flight following (because you haven't requested it, or
ATC has refused it, or you are not visible on radar), you can make
periodic position reports, so that people know where you are, in case
you crash.

From what I understand, you try to report to a FSS if you are making
position reports, but I'm not sure of the other details.

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Old November 21st 06, 04:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Default VFR position reporting

BT writes:

From what you tend to know or have about flight following or position
reporting, that same book will (should) have the format for position
reporting.


I've been looking for the format, but I haven't found it thus far.

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Old November 21st 06, 06:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
BT
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Default VFR position reporting

AIM 5-1-4 g. With Examples

For you, that would be the Airman's Information Manual, Chapter 5 Air
Traffic Prcedures, Section 1 Flight Plans, Part 4 VFR Flight Plan - VFR
Flights, paragraph g. Position Reporting. Example 1 and Example 2

BT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

From what you tend to know or have about flight following or position
reporting, that same book will (should) have the format for position
reporting.


I've been looking for the format, but I haven't found it thus far.

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Old November 21st 06, 02:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Robet Coffey
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Default VFR position reporting

Mxsmanic wrote:
I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position reports if you
are flying VFR over long distances without flight following. To whom
do you report your position, and what information should it include?
Which positions do you report and how often?

Sometimes when flying near untowered airports I will report my position
relative to the airfield on the CTAF. If by some chance (rare) I am near
the pattern altitude when passing by I think it a good idea to advise
inbound & traffic in the pattern.
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Old November 21st 06, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Default VFR position reporting

Robet Coffey writes:

Sometimes when flying near untowered airports I will report my position
relative to the airfield on the CTAF. If by some chance (rare) I am near
the pattern altitude when passing by I think it a good idea to advise
inbound & traffic in the pattern.


That is my belief as well. I think it's not really possible to
provide too much information to other pilots, so unless the frequency
is bursting with traffic (highly unlikely), the more information one
provides, the better, for both S&R and for other pilots who may be
nearby with no other way of knowing that you're in the area.

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