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In article ne.com, Andrew
Gideon writes: BillC85 wrote: Just my two cents. Sigh too true. But it wasn't always this way! Once upon a time, a "political conservative" would have been apalled at the notions expounded by religious zealots. Today, these terms of come to be hopelessly intertwined. Annoying. Similarly, once upon a time "democracy" was a liberal idea. Today, "liberal" appears to carry all sorts of unrelated baggage. What we really need are better labels. WWW.LP.ORG Take the World's Smallest Political quiz there. YOu get a two axis political spectrum that describes your place better than left/right -- Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS PP-ASEL Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG |
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Take the World's Smallest Political quiz there.
YOu get a two axis political spectrum that describes your place better than left/right I am WAY Libertarian . . . 80% on social issues and 100% on economic. www.Rosspilot.com |
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Jim Weir wrote in message . ..
In an on-the-air (*) broadcast, a BBC announcer was trying to explain the difference between the Republicans and the Democrats to his British audience. "The Republicans are verry like our ... ahhh ... Conservatives. The Democrats are verry like our ... ahhh ... Conservatives." (*) "on-the-AIR" makes this on-topic {;-) My understanding is that the democratic party was not liberal enough for the Canadians. They now have a liberal party in addition to the democrat party. If you feel guilty that you have the means to fly an airplane, you are a democrat. If you feel proud that you have succeeded enough in life to afford a plane, you are a republican. |
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
om... If you feel guilty that you have the means to fly an airplane, you are a democrat. If you feel proud that you have succeeded enough in life to afford a plane, you are a republican. These generalizations! They're all BS, "wishful thinking" or pure propaganda. |
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message These generalizations! They're all BS, "wishful thinking" or pure propaganda. You are so right! No pilots are brain dead enough to be true Democrats! G (ducking while running) -- Jim in NC |
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You are so right! No pilots are brain dead enough to be true Democrats!
G (ducking while running) Nah, it just means we're older and wiser. What was that saying Churchill coined? "If you're not a liberal at age 20, you have no heart. If you're not a Conservative at age 40, you have no brain..." -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote: What was that saying Churchill coined? "If you're not a liberal at age 20, you have no heart. If you're not a Conservative at age 40, you have no brain..." Lord Chesterfield said "He who is not a revolutionary at 16 has no heart. He who is a revolutionary at 60 has no head." If Churchill said what you posted, that's where he got it. George Patterson If you want to know God's opinion of money, just look at the people he gives it to. |
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message om... My understanding is that the democratic party was not liberal enough for the Canadians. They now have a liberal party in addition to the democrat party. The "Liberals" in Canada are actually the middle-of-the-road party. It is the "Democrats" (actually "New Democratic" Party) which is the most "left-leaning". Canadian politics morphs over time. The "basic" Candian sentiment is: a "Conservative" party that is similar to USA Republicans with a "conservative" fiscal and military platform, and perhaps a only-slightly-less conservative social policy. A "Conservative" government was responsible for the USA-Canada NAFTA agreement, but was decimated electorally in 1993. a "Liberal" party which is middle of the road, shading towards a "conservative" fiscal policy, moderate military policy, fairly liberal social policy. Many complain that this Liberal party is just as "conservative" as the "Conservatives". THIS is the "natural" governing party and has governed Canada for the majority of years, including 1993-present. a "Democratic" party, which is actually the most left-leaning party in all aspects. They have routinely been the party with the fewest seats federally, although they have frequently formed governments in one or more Provinces. This party morphed from labor activism in the dirty thirties. Their previous incarnation managed to gain power in a single province in 1944 and were the first to institute universal medicare, starting with hospital care in 1947 and medical (Doctor) services in 1962. Eventually, this was accepted as a "good" thing, and universal medicare was accepted nationally in 1966 and supported by all parties to some degree. In recent years, regional squabbles have intensifed. The "Conservatives" were not "conservative" enough (especially socially) for the rich oil-producing provinces, and a more-right-leaning party was created, more like a true Republican party. (Quebec had their own agenda and created a "Quebec only" conservative-leaning party. Etc..) At one point the original Conservatives were decimated and the new version ended up with a significant portion of the vote. But vote-splitting between the two right-wing parties ensured that the centre-of-the-road "Liberals" would remain as the governing party forever. So the Conservatives (except for the Quebec version) have re-joined into a single party once more. Their platform is still nebulous since this newest version has never actually governed; we have yet to see what their actual policies might be. In the most recent election (this summer), therefore, renewed interest in the combined "Conservatives"... and vote-splitting between the centre-of-road "Liberals", and the left-leaning "Democrats".... has left no party with a majority of seats in Parliament. The "Liberals" retain the most seats, the "Conservatives" next, then the Quebec-conservatives, and the "Democrats" the fewest. The first sessions since the election are yet to convene; it is believed some sort of coalition between the "Liberals" and "Democrats" will be able to govern. Such "minority" governments are not new in Canada, and in fact, have produced some "ground-breaking" legislation because of the compromises required to maintain a voting majority. Universal Medicare, to a certain extent, was implemented federally because of a minority government. -- *** A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within. *** - Ariel Durant 1898-1981 |
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"Icebound" wrote in message .rogers.com...
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message om... My understanding is that the democratic party was not liberal enough for the Canadians. They now have a liberal party in addition to the democrat party. The "Liberals" in Canada are actually the middle-of-the-road party. It is the "Democrats" (actually "New Democratic" Party) which is the most "left-leaning". Canadian politics morphs over time. The "basic" Candian sentiment is: Very interesting. Thanks! When my wife and I flew our Mooney out to Vancouver this summer there were elections taking place at the time. We tried to ask people in the hotel what the differences were between the parties but none of them really seemed to know. I guess it gets confusing when you have so many choices. ![]() -Robert |
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message om... "Icebound" wrote in message .rogers.com... "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message om... My understanding is that the democratic party was not liberal enough for the Canadians. They now have a liberal party in addition to the democrat party. The "Liberals" in Canada are actually the middle-of-the-road party. It is the "Democrats" (actually "New Democratic" Party) which is the most "left-leaning". Canadian politics morphs over time. The "basic" Candian sentiment is: Very interesting. Thanks! When my wife and I flew our Mooney out to Vancouver this summer there were elections taking place at the time. We tried to ask people in the hotel what the differences were between the parties but none of them really seemed to know. I guess it gets confusing when you have so many choices. ![]() Its so much easier when the choice is between the devil and the deep blue sea. Either way your stuffed. |
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