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What is up with Kalifornians, anyway?
They are close to the Mexico border. You can expect more immigrants in California than Iowa. Actually, we've got our share. There is a town about 15 miles east of Iowa City called "West Liberty" that has quite literally been taken over by Mexicans, in the last 9 years. In my former business (newspaper distribution) I used to get out there every few weeks, and it was an amazing transformation to observe. First one of the stores posted their signage in Spanish, then another -- then they ALL went Spanish. This, of course, was quite a shock for a small farming community -- but the turkey processing plant was like a magnet to the illegals. Hard work, cash payout, no strings attached. They could make more in a day there than in a month at home. Why the INS didn't just shut that plant down, I'll never know. The school system was the first to fail, naturally. Kids that don't speak any English simply don't fit into a traditional school system -- especially one that doesn't fully appreciate the magnitude of the changes facing it, and is slow to react -- and teaching simply stopped happening. This was followed by gangs, and weapons, and (of course) drugs. A downward spiral set in, as everyone who could leave, did. Only the stubborn, the very old, and those who were able to somehow capitalize on the newcomers, have stayed. The last time I drove through there, the town -- once a depressed little farm community, like so many others in Iowa -- had been essentially transformed into Little Mexico. In fairness, in some ways it's now more vibrant -- but what a culture shock for those who called it "home"! And the crime and education problems are now deep-rooted, and not easily solved. Anyway, Iowa has seen its share of illegal immigration, but NOTHING like the LA Times described. It's just so sad. California -- Southern California, specifically, was the land of my dreams, as a youth. To see that area to thoroughly and utterly ruined is just...wrong. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... Actually, we've got our share. There is a town about 15 miles east of Iowa City called "West Liberty" that has quite literally been taken over by Mexicans, in the last 9 years. In my former business (newspaper distribution) I used to get out there every few weeks, and it was an amazing transformation to observe. First one of the stores posted their signage in Spanish, then another -- then they ALL went Spanish. This, of course, was quite a shock for a small farming community -- but the turkey processing plant was like a magnet to the illegals. Hard work, cash payout, no strings attached. They could make more in a day there than in a month at home. Why the INS didn't just shut that plant down, I'll never know. Maybe the same reasons they've never shut down ANYONE in over 30 years. To wit: We've the best politicians that money can buy -- on both side of the aisle. |
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The invasion is on-going.
-- The people think the Constitution protects their rights; But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome. some support http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties. "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... | What is up with Kalifornians, anyway? | | They are close to the Mexico border. You can expect more immigrants in | California than Iowa. | | Actually, we've got our share. There is a town about 15 miles east of | Iowa City called "West Liberty" that has quite literally been taken | over by Mexicans, in the last 9 years. | | In my former business (newspaper distribution) I used to get out there | every few weeks, and it was an amazing transformation to observe. | First one of the stores posted their signage in Spanish, then another | -- then they ALL went Spanish. | | This, of course, was quite a shock for a small farming community -- but | the turkey processing plant was like a magnet to the illegals. Hard | work, cash payout, no strings attached. They could make more in a day | there than in a month at home. Why the INS didn't just shut that plant | down, I'll never know. | | The school system was the first to fail, naturally. Kids that don't | speak any English simply don't fit into a traditional school system -- | especially one that doesn't fully appreciate the magnitude of the | changes facing it, and is slow to react -- and teaching simply stopped | happening. This was followed by gangs, and weapons, and (of course) | drugs. | | A downward spiral set in, as everyone who could leave, did. Only the | stubborn, the very old, and those who were able to somehow capitalize | on the newcomers, have stayed. | | The last time I drove through there, the town -- once a depressed | little farm community, like so many others in Iowa -- had been | essentially transformed into Little Mexico. | | In fairness, in some ways it's now more vibrant -- but what a culture | shock for those who called it "home"! And the crime and education | problems are now deep-rooted, and not easily solved. | | Anyway, Iowa has seen its share of illegal immigration, but NOTHING | like the LA Times described. | | It's just so sad. California -- Southern California, specifically, was | the land of my dreams, as a youth. To see that area to thoroughly and | utterly ruined is just...wrong. | -- | Jay Honeck | Iowa City, IA | Pathfinder N56993 | www.AlexisParkInn.com | "Your Aviation Destination" | |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... The point is that you should not have to check for the so-called documentation; the persons in the country should only be here legally if the gov't was doing its job. The law is the gov't way of offloading their responsibility under the constitution... Baloney. We *are* the government here -- and it's up to each of us to make sure that the laws are followed. The cops can't do it without our help. I wish it were that simple... If _we_ really were the gov't there would not be an electoral collage and politicians would serve with no pay or other financial incentive, etc. If no one hired the illegals, guess what? They would go home. And, yes, it really *is* that simple. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" There are so many laws on the books and so much selective enforcement that it seems we really need to throw out all the muda. Never happen, will only write more laws to hide the old ones. There are plenty of laws in place today to prosecute folks that hire the 'illegals', but how often are businesses shut down or owners fined or sent to jail? |
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ... Nail the employer. Nail them hard. When no employer is willing to take the chance, there will be no jobs for the illegals, and eventually, they will stop coming. First, throw all of Congress in jail. Then, the entire management of INS. Don't stop there... |
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On 2006-05-04, Jay Honeck wrote:
It's just so sad. California -- Southern California, specifically, was the land of my dreams, as a youth. To see that area to thoroughly and utterly ruined is just...wrong. Gosh - why SoCal? Most my trips there have featured smog so thick that it wasn't VFR legal (yet a bright sunny day). Northern California seems much better to me (and places like San Fransico have a moderate climate too). -- Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid. Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de |
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Gosh - why SoCal? Most my trips there have featured smog so thick that
it wasn't VFR legal (yet a bright sunny day). Northern California seems much better to me (and places like San Fransico have a moderate climate too). Think "California Dreamin", and almost any song by the Beach Boys. THAT was the California most of us dreamed about in the 60s and 70s. I've been to SoCal in '61, '63, '77, '78, '88, and '94. It looked like paradise when I first visited...and it was still quite nice in '88, if you stayed out of the crappy areas. By '94 it was a mess, and it sounds like hell, now. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On 2006-05-05, Jay Honeck wrote:
I've been to SoCal in '61, '63, '77, '78, '88, and '94. It looked like paradise when I first visited...and it was still quite nice in '88, if you stayed out of the crappy areas. The thing which gets me is there are a lot of rich people in the smog filled LA basin who can afford to live anywhere they like in the world - yet they choose LA. Different strokes, I suppose. If I had the money to live in California, the only place I'd go is northern California. There really are a lot of beautiful places out there. Actually, the cliffs and rocky shorelines around Monterrey reminded me of where I live now when I last went! -- Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid. Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de |
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"Dylan Smith" wrote Gosh - why SoCal? Most my trips there have featured smog so thick that it wasn't VFR legal (yet a bright sunny day). It's a hell of a lot more clear than it was 35 years, ago, in my observation. -- Jim in NC |
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"Morgans" wrote in message ... "Dylan Smith" wrote Gosh - why SoCal? Most my trips there have featured smog so thick that it wasn't VFR legal (yet a bright sunny day). It's a hell of a lot more clear than it was 35 years, ago, in my observation. 35 years ago you could see the foothills on a regular basis and the mountains every so often. We were there for a week a year ago and never saw the foot hills much less the mountains. -- Jim in NC |
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