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Old May 4th 06, 05:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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What is up with Kalifornians, anyway?

They are close to the Mexico border. You can expect more immigrants in
California than Iowa.


Actually, we've got our share. There is a town about 15 miles east of
Iowa City called "West Liberty" that has quite literally been taken
over by Mexicans, in the last 9 years.

In my former business (newspaper distribution) I used to get out there
every few weeks, and it was an amazing transformation to observe.
First one of the stores posted their signage in Spanish, then another
-- then they ALL went Spanish.

This, of course, was quite a shock for a small farming community -- but
the turkey processing plant was like a magnet to the illegals. Hard
work, cash payout, no strings attached. They could make more in a day
there than in a month at home. Why the INS didn't just shut that plant
down, I'll never know.

The school system was the first to fail, naturally. Kids that don't
speak any English simply don't fit into a traditional school system --
especially one that doesn't fully appreciate the magnitude of the
changes facing it, and is slow to react -- and teaching simply stopped
happening. This was followed by gangs, and weapons, and (of course)
drugs.

A downward spiral set in, as everyone who could leave, did. Only the
stubborn, the very old, and those who were able to somehow capitalize
on the newcomers, have stayed.

The last time I drove through there, the town -- once a depressed
little farm community, like so many others in Iowa -- had been
essentially transformed into Little Mexico.

In fairness, in some ways it's now more vibrant -- but what a culture
shock for those who called it "home"! And the crime and education
problems are now deep-rooted, and not easily solved.

Anyway, Iowa has seen its share of illegal immigration, but NOTHING
like the LA Times described.

It's just so sad. California -- Southern California, specifically, was
the land of my dreams, as a youth. To see that area to thoroughly and
utterly ruined is just...wrong.
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Iowa City, IA
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Old May 4th 06, 05:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Actually, we've got our share. There is a town about 15 miles east of
Iowa City called "West Liberty" that has quite literally been taken
over by Mexicans, in the last 9 years.

In my former business (newspaper distribution) I used to get out there
every few weeks, and it was an amazing transformation to observe.
First one of the stores posted their signage in Spanish, then another
-- then they ALL went Spanish.

This, of course, was quite a shock for a small farming community -- but
the turkey processing plant was like a magnet to the illegals. Hard
work, cash payout, no strings attached. They could make more in a day
there than in a month at home. Why the INS didn't just shut that plant
down, I'll never know.


Maybe the same reasons they've never shut down ANYONE in over 30 years. To
wit: We've the best politicians that money can buy -- on both side of the
aisle.


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Old May 4th 06, 07:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The invasion is on-going.


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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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| What is up with Kalifornians, anyway?
|
| They are close to the Mexico border. You can expect more
immigrants in
| California than Iowa.
|
| Actually, we've got our share. There is a town about 15
miles east of
| Iowa City called "West Liberty" that has quite literally
been taken
| over by Mexicans, in the last 9 years.
|
| In my former business (newspaper distribution) I used to
get out there
| every few weeks, and it was an amazing transformation to
observe.
| First one of the stores posted their signage in Spanish,
then another
| -- then they ALL went Spanish.
|
| This, of course, was quite a shock for a small farming
community -- but
| the turkey processing plant was like a magnet to the
illegals. Hard
| work, cash payout, no strings attached. They could make
more in a day
| there than in a month at home. Why the INS didn't just
shut that plant
| down, I'll never know.
|
| The school system was the first to fail, naturally. Kids
that don't
| speak any English simply don't fit into a traditional
school system --
| especially one that doesn't fully appreciate the magnitude
of the
| changes facing it, and is slow to react -- and teaching
simply stopped
| happening. This was followed by gangs, and weapons, and
(of course)
| drugs.
|
| A downward spiral set in, as everyone who could leave,
did. Only the
| stubborn, the very old, and those who were able to somehow
capitalize
| on the newcomers, have stayed.
|
| The last time I drove through there, the town -- once a
depressed
| little farm community, like so many others in Iowa -- had
been
| essentially transformed into Little Mexico.
|
| In fairness, in some ways it's now more vibrant -- but
what a culture
| shock for those who called it "home"! And the crime and
education
| problems are now deep-rooted, and not easily solved.
|
| Anyway, Iowa has seen its share of illegal immigration,
but NOTHING
| like the LA Times described.
|
| It's just so sad. California -- Southern California,
specifically, was
| the land of my dreams, as a youth. To see that area to
thoroughly and
| utterly ruined is just...wrong.
| --
| Jay Honeck
| Iowa City, IA
| Pathfinder N56993
| www.AlexisParkInn.com
| "Your Aviation Destination"
|


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Old May 5th 06, 03:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com...
The point is that you should not have to check for the so-called documentation; the persons in the country should
only
be here legally if the gov't was doing its job. The law is the gov't way of offloading their responsibility under the
constitution...


Baloney. We *are* the government here -- and it's up to each of us to
make sure that the laws are followed. The cops can't do it without
our help.


I wish it were that simple... If _we_ really were the gov't there would not be an electoral collage and politicians
would serve with no pay or other financial incentive, etc.

If no one hired the illegals, guess what? They would go home.

And, yes, it really *is* that simple.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


There are so many laws on the books and so much selective enforcement that it seems we really need to throw out all the
muda. Never happen, will only write more laws to hide the old ones. There are plenty of laws in place today to prosecute
folks that hire the 'illegals', but how often are businesses shut down or owners fined or sent to jail?


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Old May 5th 06, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message ...
Nail the employer. Nail them hard. When no employer is willing to take
the
chance, there will be no jobs for the illegals, and eventually, they will
stop coming.


First, throw all of Congress in jail. Then, the entire management of INS.



Don't stop there...


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Old May 5th 06, 11:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 2006-05-04, Jay Honeck wrote:
It's just so sad. California -- Southern California, specifically, was
the land of my dreams, as a youth. To see that area to thoroughly and
utterly ruined is just...wrong.


Gosh - why SoCal? Most my trips there have featured smog so thick that
it wasn't VFR legal (yet a bright sunny day). Northern California seems
much better to me (and places like San Fransico have a moderate climate
too).

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Old May 5th 06, 02:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gosh - why SoCal? Most my trips there have featured smog so thick that
it wasn't VFR legal (yet a bright sunny day). Northern California seems
much better to me (and places like San Fransico have a moderate climate
too).


Think "California Dreamin", and almost any song by the Beach Boys.
THAT was the California most of us dreamed about in the 60s and 70s.

I've been to SoCal in '61, '63, '77, '78, '88, and '94. It looked like
paradise when I first visited...and it was still quite nice in '88, if
you stayed out of the crappy areas.

By '94 it was a mess, and it sounds like hell, now.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old May 5th 06, 04:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 2006-05-05, Jay Honeck wrote:
I've been to SoCal in '61, '63, '77, '78, '88, and '94. It looked like
paradise when I first visited...and it was still quite nice in '88, if
you stayed out of the crappy areas.


The thing which gets me is there are a lot of rich people in the smog
filled LA basin who can afford to live anywhere they like in the world -
yet they choose LA. Different strokes, I suppose. If I had the money to
live in California, the only place I'd go is northern California. There
really are a lot of beautiful places out there.

Actually, the cliffs and rocky shorelines around Monterrey reminded me
of where I live now when I last went!

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Old May 5th 06, 11:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dylan Smith" wrote

Gosh - why SoCal? Most my trips there have featured smog so thick that
it wasn't VFR legal (yet a bright sunny day).


It's a hell of a lot more clear than it was 35 years, ago, in my
observation.
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Old May 6th 06, 01:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Dylan Smith" wrote

Gosh - why SoCal? Most my trips there have featured smog so thick that
it wasn't VFR legal (yet a bright sunny day).


It's a hell of a lot more clear than it was 35 years, ago, in my
observation.


35 years ago you could see the foothills on a regular basis and the
mountains every so often. We were there for a week a year ago and never saw
the foot hills much less the mountains.

--
Jim in NC



 




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