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For what it is worth, I just received the following notice:
YEEEEEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! Howard? Howard Dean? Is that you? We've been WONDERING what you've been up to lately! ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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David Lesher wrote: And why did Meigs *not* have this constraint? According to AOPA articles, "In 1994, Daley announced plans to close the airport and build a park in its place on Northerly Island. He could do that because of a unique FAA grant agreement that gave him an "escape clause." While most federal grants to airports specify that the airport must remain open 20 years, the Meigs grant obligated the city to maintain the airport only for the length of its lease for the land. Northerly Island was owned by the Chicago Park District, which refused to renew the airport lease in 1996. Without the federal obligation in place, the airport became private property." George Patterson If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have been looking for it. |
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Matt Whiting wrote: bryan chaisone wrote: Better late than never. A little is better than nothing. I have to disagree and agree with the other poster who said this will only encourage others. If they can get out of having to return all of the federal airport funds and close and unwanted airport for a mere $30K fine, then this is a great deal for them. If a city tries it today, the fine is $900,000. George Patterson If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have been looking for it. |
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Thomas Borchert wrote: Orval, if anything, that fine is an encouragement to other cities wanting to close their airports. Bad move, IMHO. But other cities have not had their obligations lifted, the way Chicago did. |
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... bryan chaisone wrote: Better late than never. A little is better than nothing. I have to disagree and agree with the other poster who said this will only encourage others. If they can get out of having to return all of the federal airport funds and close and unwanted airport for a mere $30K fine, then this is a great deal for them. Do you think this encourages others more than doing nothing does? Yes, I do. Prior to this they had an unknown liability if they did what Daley did. Now they have a known, and very small, liability. Most people will take a known vs. an unknown any day. Before they were still wondering what might happen. Now they know, and they know it is a trivial fine. Matt |
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David Lesher wrote:
David Reinhart writes: On top of that, Meigs is the only airport that had special provisions in its grant assurances that let them off the hook. Not only would another airport sponsor risk the larger fines, they'd also be responsible for paying back AIP grant money, which could me tens of millions of dollars, or more. And why did Meigs *not* have this constraint? You really don't know much about Chicago do you? :-) This is the corruption capital of the US. I'm sure some money greased the right palms... Matt |
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G.R. Patterson III wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: bryan chaisone wrote: Better late than never. A little is better than nothing. I have to disagree and agree with the other poster who said this will only encourage others. If they can get out of having to return all of the federal airport funds and close and unwanted airport for a mere $30K fine, then this is a great deal for them. If a city tries it today, the fine is $900,000. Still chump change for a city the size of Chicago. The fine should be a percentage of the cities annual budget, something like 50% of its budget would work for me. A fixed rate fine only deters the small towns and cities. Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Yes, I do. Prior to this they had an unknown liability if they did what Daley did. Now they have a known, and very small, liability. Most people will take a known vs. an unknown any day. Before they were still wondering what might happen. Now they know, and they know it is a trivial fine. Chicago was hit with the maximum fine. Because of Meigs the fine has been increased. |
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