Private Pilot License in 10 days!

"gatt" gatt wrote:

I just can't imagine going from zero hours to
flying 4+ hours a day, ten days straight, excluding
all the pre- and post-flight instruction and review,
without melting down.

I'm admittedly slower than most, but it took me two weeks to just complete the
four cross-countries (dual day and night and short and long solo). It takes a
while to just learn how to select a route and to plan and map them out, let
alone the time to make each flight and debrief afterward to understand and
apply what was learned to the next one. From start *to finish* in 10 days ...
how could you possibly have enough time to study on your own time when not
flying AND get enough SLEEP to stay sharp enough to learn and remember all
there is to learn at that extremely accelerated rate? Are we talking about your
average human here???

--Shirley

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:34:58 -0700, "gatt"
wrote:

"tony roberts" wrote in message
news:nospam-428C72.22340705072004@shawnews...
Dead in eleven!

Exactly. My response was going to be "Pilot at ten, news at eleven."

-c

I wonder how many hours, on average, the military pilots who were
trained during WWII accumulated before they got their wings?

I know I know, there was a war on and pilots were desperately needed
but still.

I know that towards the end of the war, neither Germany nor Japan had
enough fuel to train like they did at the beginning of the war and
pilots were tossed into combat with extraordinarily few hours. During
the Battle of Britain, some of the British pilots were fresh out of
training and only had a few hours in type, and no training firing
their machine guns at all. Many of these pilots were killed during
their first or second sortie, if they saw combat.

wrote in message

I wonder how many hours, on average, the military pilots who were
trained during WWII accumulated before they got their wings?

Not sure about "wings" exactly, but the bomber pilots coming in by 1944 and
1945 were called "90-day wonders."

-c

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Jonathan wrote:

I dont buy it. How can you get the necessary experience required? Maybe
10 days to solo and pass the written, but to have your PPL - seems a bit
much!

I prowled around the web site and found this page -
http://www.perfectplanes.com/about_nn4.html

This provides the costs for the minimum FAA flight time (40 hours) and the
claim that
their students are averaging 48 hours. They say it can be done in "as
little as ten
days." The footnote at the bottom of the page says the cost does not
include ground
school, the exam, or the checkride.

I would bet that that 10 day deal includes only the 40 hours of flight
time and does
not include study for the written.

George Patterson
In Idaho, tossing a rattlesnake into a crowded room is felony
assault.
In Tennessee, it's evangelism.


I think all that place dose is sign them off for the practical test and then
offers them a choice of DE's ranging from $150 to $500 and ill bet that they
are inbed with the $500 DE to make sure every one passes on the second check
a quick way for them to make $1,000 x 3 to 4 suckers a month you do the
math.

These are my opinions only!

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 11:46:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 16:34:58 -0700, "gatt"
wrote:

"tony roberts" wrote in message
news:nospam-428C72.22340705072004@shawnews...
Dead in eleven!

Exactly. My response was going to be "Pilot at ten, news at eleven."

-c

I wonder how many hours, on average, the military pilots who were
trained during WWII accumulated before they got their wings?

I've read some news articles (which I can not verify the accuracy)
that said toward the end of the war some pilots went into combat
shortly after solo.with far less time than required for the PPL in the
US now days.

Desperate time bring desperate measures.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

I know I know, there was a war on and pilots were desperately needed
but still.

I know that towards the end of the war, neither Germany nor Japan had
enough fuel to train like they did at the beginning of the war and
pilots were tossed into combat with extraordinarily few hours. During
the Battle of Britain, some of the British pilots were fresh out of
training and only had a few hours in type, and no training firing
their machine guns at all. Many of these pilots were killed during
their first or second sortie, if they saw combat.

I would not question their ability to fly their planes but let me know
where the 10-days pilots fly and I'll avoid that airport.

The average United States pilot in WWII had a couple hundred hours, at
least, some more, before going overseas. Then there was sometimes
familarization (sp) flights, which also included going with an
experienced crew for one or two missions (in case of bomber pilots)
before taking over in their own plane.

The Battle of Britian pilots had it worse. Many had like 10 hours or
even less in type (spit or hurri) before entering combat!

As for the thread subject, I agree, 10 days for a PPL is too fast. It
makes more sense as a "finish up" type course, like many of the
IFR-in-a-week courses are. Thats where you already have most of your
hours, and need to polish up, take the written, etc. That sort of thing.

John

Imagining going up to an FAA examiner for your PPL flight test and
telling him you just started flying 10 day's ago. I loved to be around to
see the look on his face.

John Fitzpatrick wrote:

Imagining going up to an FAA examiner for your PPL flight test and
telling him you just started flying 10 day's ago. I loved to be around to
see the look on his face.

Just as long as the response isn't "hey; so did I!".

- Andrew

I got mine in two days!

(48 hours / 24 hours per day = 2 days)


"Gilan" wrote in message
ink.net...
http://www.perfectplanes.com/10day.html

http://www.mitchellwing.com



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