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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
Sun-N-Fun Fly-In is a nonprofit corporation separate from EAA and
separate from Airventure... It started as a local EAA chapter throwing a dawn patrol/fly-in, but it began to grow and make money... When the EAA began demanding to feed at the trough, the people doing the work in Florida did not see any reason to just hand the money over... For those who think of it as just the winter version of the EAA airshow, go look at the SUN-N-FUN FLY-IN website... No where is the EAA Logo shown... The only concession to the EAA is if you are a member of the Florida Air Museum or the EAA, you will get a price break on your admission fee... in small print and no EAA logo Whereas, go to the Airventure site and the EAA logo is part of the copyrighted banner "EAA" AIRVENTURE... So you know which fat hogs are feeding at the trough... I don't go to either show, much anymore... At Oshkosh the stench of greed takes most of the fun out of it... Sun-N-Fun simply has gotten too big and too commercial, just like AIrventure... I'm looking for a fly-in with more of the old time fun factor... Suggestions will be entertained... I do a mean soft shoe routine denny |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
"Jay Maynard" wrote in message
... On 2008-03-25, Jim Logajan wrote: Okay - now - why is the story being rehashed at just this time? Any of you students of life care to raise a hand and give an answer? ;-) Would you Zoom-bashers (and I'm not contesting whether you're right to do so or not!) PLEASE explain why AOPA is raising the same concerns, if the whole thing is just a Zoom vendetta? I suspect Phil Boyer is actually doing something about it, rather than printing re-runs. |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On 2008-03-25, Steve Foley wrote:
"Jay Maynard" wrote in message ... Would you Zoom-bashers (and I'm not contesting whether you're right to do so or not!) PLEASE explain why AOPA is raising the same concerns, if the whole thing is just a Zoom vendetta? I suspect Phil Boyer is actually doing something about it, rather than printing re-runs. Indeed...and he'd look awfully silly trying to get the Florida Department of Revenue to fix a problem that's not a problem. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June) |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
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Jim Logajan wrote: Correct - a sale in Florida got hit with a Florida sales tax. That is perfectly normal and doesn't deserve any press. The article also mentions a Cirrus; was that a Florida sale? -- -Ed Falk, http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On Mar 25, 3:34*am, Jay Maynard
wrote: On 2008-03-25, Jim Logajan wrote: Okay - now - why is the story being rehashed at just this time? Any of you students of life care to raise a hand and give an answer? ;-) Would you Zoom-bashers (and I'm not contesting whether you're right to do so or not!) PLEASE explain why AOPA is raising the same concerns, if the whole thing is just a Zoom vendetta? Zoom Campbell may well be a kook. Phil Boyer is not. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC * * * * * * * * *http://www.conmicro.comhttp://jmaynard.livejournal.com* * *http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) * * * * * * * * * * * *(Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June) The issue isn't so much rather the tax is real but rather it should be tied into a damning of the Sun-N-Fun event. Clearly, the story was a reprint with the intent to do harm to the Sun-N-Fun event by association and a threat that it could happen to anyone attending. I won't comment on rather something is wrong with the Florida Use Tax without full details of the context in which it was applied. Using it to threaten anyone attending Sun-N-Fun with a similar tax or implying that Sun-N-Fun has any direct relation is totally without merit and only shows that Campbell will stop at nothing to destroy the event. |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On Mar 24, 10:17*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
(Edward A. Falk) wrote: In article , Jim Logajan wrote: Roger wrote: See my post where I gave the URL to the May 2007 A.N.N. story. A.N.N. is basically rehashing a year-old story just ahead of SnF to cause maximum damage to it and Florida. Did it really happen or not? *Apparently it did. Correct - a sale in Florida got hit with a Florida sales tax. That is perfectly normal and doesn't deserve any press. *Has the law changed to prevent a recurrance? *Apparently it has not. And it doesn't appear to need any changing. You can find it on the web. Since you appear to be claiming that the law needs changing, why don't you quote it and tell us what aspect needs changing? *A simple visit to Florida could cost you many thousands of dollars. *Anybody tempted to visit that state deserves to know this. Baloney. A simple visit to Florida does not trigger use tax. Florida would not have prevailed if that were their only basis for demanding the tax. Should this story damage Florida? *If it's true, I would say yes. What precisely do you think the story is here? Are you claiming the seller was not a Florida company? If so, you have information I don't have. Please share with me who the seller was and what state they were in. I'm claiming there is a preponderance of evidence indicating Piper, a Florida company, delivered to a North Carolina person or legal entity a plane that was subject to Florida sales tax. You present precisely zero evidence - just outrage. So; is it true or not? *The AOPA article looks pretty damning. If it is so damning, then feel free to quote the cases listed in the AOPA article of inappropriate sales tax. You only need name one. I'll be here all year. What evidence do you have that it's not? Res ipsa loquitur: Florida has the sales tax money and the buyer gave up, even though by my estimate the difference between NC and FL taxes for the plane was worth a bit more than $30,000 to the purchaser. I fid it passing sstrange that that one case happened almost a year ago and seemingly none since. I hardly think that Florida would have passed up the opportunity to collect bales of taxes from out-of-state planes if it were possible. I am sure that there have been many more than _one_ new plane bought within 6 months that visited there. I would be interested in a link to the claimed Maine thing also. Harry K |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On 2008-03-25, BobR wrote:
The issue isn't so much rather the tax is real but rather it should be tied into a damning of the Sun-N-Fun event. For you and the other folks primarily concerned with Zoom, perhaps not. For me as a new aircraft owner, I don't care if he's trying to trash Sun n Fun or not: I care if Florida is going to try to ding me form $10K or so merely for taking my new airplane there. I don't care who's raising the red flag, or why. That AOPA is pursuing the matter is all the credibility I need to be concerned about it. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!) AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 2 June) |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
On 2008-03-25, Bryan Martin wrote:
The AOPA may have been sucked into this tempest the same as many others and is now aggressively trying to cut through the fog to get at the truth. I strongly doubt the AOPA is in the habit of crying wolf. I'd be astounded to learn that they raised the issue without checking into it to make sure it's real. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390 |
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A.N.N. BUSTED! Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
Jay Maynard wrote:
On 2008-03-25, Jim Logajan wrote: Okay - now - why is the story being rehashed at just this time? Any of you students of life care to raise a hand and give an answer? ;-) Would you Zoom-bashers (and I'm not contesting whether you're right to do so or not!) PLEASE explain why AOPA is raising the same concerns, if the whole thing is just a Zoom vendetta? I am not a "Zoom-basher". This is the first time I've ever looked into an issue related to Jim Campbell. I've been posting to Usenet for many years and have never previously discussed anything about this fellow and otherwise could care less. I do have issues with deceptive "journalism" though. Zoom Campbell may well be a kook. Phil Boyer is not. But Phil Boyer can be mistaken or otherwise taken in by deliberately deceptive reporting. Have you seen any mention of this alleged issue on, say, AvWeb or EAA's web sites? |
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Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !
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