Did we win in Viet Nam?

How many think we won in Viet Nam?Lost?

"Lisakbernacchia" wrote in message
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How many think we won in Viet Nam?Lost?

Who is 'we'?

John

How many think we won in Viet Nam?Lost?


What was the score in Vietnam? If you can tell me what the final score was,
then I'll tell you if we won or lost. Don't forget to tell me what metrics and
methodology you employed to determine that score. eg. national objectives,
political objectives, military objectives, etcetera.

Can you reply with this information by tomorrow?



Kurt Todoroff


Markets, not mandates and mob rule.
Consent, not compulsion.

We won every battle fought in Vietnam! But we lost the war in Vietnam when
the backstabbers in Washington D. C. commenced undermining the American and
Vietnamese troops by refusing to support them with funds, etc.

Some politicians will gladly sell their birthright of freedom for even
momentary political power. Just look at how certain political and media
factions are currently obsessing over Abu Ghraib while dismissing the
butchering of a fellow citizen, Nicholas Berg! We see those same Vietnam
backstabbers now trying to undermine our troops efforts in Iraq!

Backstabbers have existed throughout history ( Christ's Judas and Caesar's
Brutus, for example). Fortunately they have never been able to prevail! But
they need always to be exposed for the moral snakes they truly are!

WDA

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"Lisakbernacchia" wrote in message
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How many think we won in Viet Nam?Lost?

Lisakbernacchia wrote:

How many think we won in Viet Nam?Lost?


We fought ourselves to a draw, Lisa dear, and at a price made much higher than
necessary by fools such as yourself.

We won in Viet Nam and lost in Washington and Paris. Your bitterness is misdirected.



Jack

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How many think we won in Viet Nam?Lost?

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Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

B2431 wrote:

People, I looked at Lisa's AOL profile. She's a child. It would probably be
best to treat her as such.

"She" is and "she" is not.

Treating "her" as such, however, is the best way to go.



Jack

sharkone wrote:

How many think we won in Viet Nam?Lost?


What was the score in Vietnam? If you can tell me what the final score was,
then I'll tell you if we won or lost. Don't forget to tell me what metrics
and
methodology you employed to determine that score. eg. national objectives,
political objectives, military objectives, etcetera.

Can you reply with this information by tomorrow?

According to people in both the Kennedy and Johnson aministrations, the reason
we fought in SE Asia (initially espoused by Kennedy in our support for the
Laotian government) was to prevent all of South Asia from coming under
communist rule and seriously threatening our position in the Pacific. We wound
up "losing" South Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, but interestingly enough none of
these "losses" had any direct impact on our position in the Pacific. The
tragedy of Cambodia combined with the mistrust between communist nations
prevented the "domino effect" from taking over more than SE Asia, and then only
temporarily in the case of Laos and Cambodia. Can we attribute U.S. military
involvement in SE Asia to the failure of the "domino effect"? Tough question.
Surely the damage inflicted by the US on North Vietnamese and VC forces had an
impact on their ability to project power beyond its borders circa 1974, but
sociological factors contributed as well. Vietnam had border conflicts with all
its neighboring (and fellow communist) nations in the years immediately
following its victory so a "pan communist Asian revolution" seemed unlikely.
The question posed here is a tough one and one that probably doesn't have an
answer that can be explained on a single (or dozen) usenet posts.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

ietnam had border conflicts with all
its neighboring (and fellow communist) nations in the years immediately
following its victory so a "pan communist Asian revolution" seemed unlikely.
The question posed here is a tough one and one that probably doesn't have an
answer that can be explained on a single (or dozen) usenet posts.


On the other hand, capital ism is rampant in the north and the south. tourism
is one of the biggest industries there, people travel arounf more or less
freely, there was no clear winner, and NVN's patron, the Soviet Union,
collapsed 15 years later so who really lost?

We won in Viet Nam and lost in Washington and Paris. Your bitterness is
misdirected.


I don't see how anyone can say with a straight face that we "won" anything in
Viet Nam.

NVA army units siezed the capital of the south, ran up their flag -- they even
changed the name. We and our allies had to flee. That's defeat.

Walt