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On Nov 10, 1:16 am, Ron Wanttaja wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:06:16 -0000, Rutan Kid wrote: Whoa! guys, gals if any. Your still thinking about using Rotax and half VW engines. Not to bag on them but there not the most reliable for the price or the weight. When i was off web browsing I found these guys http://www.rotaryae.com/ They are rotary but you may want to take a peek they changed my mind from the lycoming, VW for my Quickie Q-200 I now have one on order as soon as there testing or something like that is done. If they haven't even started testing them yet, what makes you think they'll be more reliable than Rotaxes or half-VWs? Ron Wanttaja There more reliable cause they have tested the industrial rotary not aviation rotary and has been proven on experimental aircraft already. The changes from the industrial engine to aviation engine is really to make it handle the altitude changes and endure constant strain for hours on end and more. For example on the reliability a man purchased a rotary engine, he was unaware that the engine did not have oil already in it for shipping reasons. He mounted it flew on it for four hours before noticing a power decrease. He called the manufacture and ask for the assistance after a few exchanging of words he got his answer. He found out that he burnt out the rotary piston and did some damage to his carb. Heres the part i died over in disbelief 462.us$ dollars later he had his engine ready to go again. |
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 01:36:55 -0000, Rutan Kid wrote:
On Nov 10, 1:16 am, Ron Wanttaja wrote: On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 07:06:16 -0000, Rutan Kid wrote: Whoa! guys, gals if any. Your still thinking about using Rotax and half VW engines. Not to bag on them but there not the most reliable for the price or the weight. When i was off web browsing I found these guys http://www.rotaryae.com/ They are rotary but you may want to take a peek they changed my mind from the lycoming, VW for my Quickie Q-200 I now have one on order as soon as there testing or something like that is done. If they haven't even started testing them yet, what makes you think they'll be more reliable than Rotaxes or half-VWs? Ron Wanttaja There more reliable cause they have tested the industrial rotary not aviation rotary and has been proven on experimental aircraft already. How many units have been installed in aircraft, and how many total flying hours do they have? Chevy, VW, and Ford engines have been reliable in non-aviation applications, too... Ron Wanttaja |
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Ron Wanttaja a écrit :
How many units have been installed in aircraft, and how many total flying hours do they have? Just a few flight hours on a couple of ultralights I'll guess. We'll have to wait a little time before a significant number on those engines make it to TBO... Regards, -- Gilles Thesee http://contrails.free.fr |
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Ron Wanttaja There more reliable cause they have tested the industrial rotary not aviation rotary and has been proven on experimental aircraft already. Ron I found their website interesting. One thing that I found odd was that if you wanted dual spark plugs, you had to have a turbo charger. From their own description, you should have any need for a turbo. I also found it odd that the psru was an additonal 50% of the original engine. Lou |
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Frank Stutzman wrote:
Well I can't help you but I can help you shorten your list some. The Zenith 701 is neither a tube and fabric or a folding wing and doesn't perform very well with a 65 hp engine. You are correct on most of those items, except that 701 does have an option for folding wing. See http://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/fwo.html While it does exist, I don't think its very popular. You are right I had forgotten. It's funny, after being involved in the Zenith building community since 2002 I have never seen it mentioned anywhere outside of the Zenith Website. |
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Rob_S wrote:
Thanks guys... I know the Zenair is not fabric and I don't know how it flys 65 horses. I would love to have $40k to splash on a kit with a 912 but with about a quarter of that available I am going to have to settle for something a little more realistic. I don't mind tackling a scratch built project if I could find a set of proven plans for this type of aircraft. There are a large number of plans built 701s out there. |
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"Rutan Kid" wrote in message ups.com... | On Nov 9, 7:11 pm, "Rob_S" | wrote: | Thanks guys... | I know the Zenair is not fabric and I don't know how it flys 65 horses. I | would love to have $40k to splash on a kit with a 912 but with about a | quarter of that available I am going to have to settle for something a | little more realistic. I don't mind tackling a scratch built project if I | could find a set of proven plans for this type of aircraft. | | "Frank Stutzman" wrote in message | | ... | | Well I can't help you but I can help you shorten your list some. The | Zenith | 701 is neither a tube and fabric or a folding wing and doesn't perform | very | well with a 65 hp engine. | | You are correct on most of those items, except that 701 does have an | option for folding wing. Seehttp://www.zenithair.com/stolch701/fwo.html | | While it does exist, I don't think its very popular. | | -- | Frank Stutzman | Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl" | Boise, ID | | Whoa! guys, gals if any. | Your still thinking about using Rotax and half VW engines. Not to bag | on them but there not the most reliable for the price or the weight. | When i was off web browsing I found these guys http://www.rotaryae.com/ | They are rotary but you may want to take a peek they changed my mind | from the lycoming, VW for my Quickie Q-200 I now have one on order as | soon as there testing or something like that is done. | There was a guy in Comanche OK some years back that was offering a single rotor and double rotor Mazda based engine. I stopped by his place and saw that he was planning on installing one in a BD-5. Some of the problems he told me about that he was working on was a very hot exhaust system. ( Mazda used a cumbersome heat shield) Fuel consumption was very high, partially due to the fact that the actual C.I. was about twice as much as Mazda listed. I think the high fuel consumption was his big stumbling block. I noticed on the above website they list fuel consumption as a problem in the past but they don't say they have solved it. -- Anyolmouse ---- Posted via Pronews.com - Premium Corporate Usenet News Provider ---- http://www.pronews.com offers corporate packages that have access to 100,000+ newsgroups |
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