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Small Sheriff's Departments Using Helicopters
Are any of you guys flying for "small" SOs that have received their
helicopters from the military? How is your program set up? What are pilot requirements? |
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message ...
Are any of you guys flying for "small" SOs that have received their helicopters from the military? How is your program set up? What are pilot requirements? IMHO, as "public use", SOs are not required to abide by FAA regulations. In fact, pilots do not need to be licensed. However, I'm not aware of any SO doing this. |
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On 20 Aug 2003 22:35:14 -0700, (Ken Sandyeggo) wrote:
(Mr. MD500) wrote in message ... On 18 Aug 2003 19:51:13 -0700, (Jim Eli) wrote: "Gig Giacona" wrote in message ... Are any of you guys flying for "small" SOs that have received their helicopters from the military? How is your program set up? What are pilot requirements? IMHO, as "public use", SOs are not required to abide by FAA regulations. In fact, pilots do not need to be licensed. However, I'm not aware of any SO doing this. Here comes another one of those "police pilots are not licensed" threads. Fact is isnsurance carriers will require a commercial license, minimum. For liability reasons, no agency would allow a unlicensed persion to pilot their aircraft. Thats basic common sense . At a minimum, law enforcement aircraft are maintained to part 91 standards. They don't have to use certificated aircraft, however. And what is overlooked is because of the high liability issues involving both city and county goverments, they have the option of becoming self-insured, courtesy of the state government. So if they insure themselves, who's gonna complain *if* they don't license their pilots? The waiting game is often used by city and county governments when someone makes a claim, regardless of how justified the claim may be. If they can wait you out long enough, you lose the funding and the will to continue a suit. Happens quite often. TM -- Toadmonkey: "Now now. Brain popping and world crashing may be hazardous to ones perception of reality. Very dangerous business that can lead to madness or something worse for some, truth." Remove "3+4" from addy before replying -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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"Mr. MD500" wrote in message ... On 18 Aug 2003 19:51:13 -0700, (Jim Eli) wrote: "Gig Giacona" wrote in message ... Are any of you guys flying for "small" SOs that have received their helicopters from the military? How is your program set up? What are pilot requirements? IMHO, as "public use", SOs are not required to abide by FAA regulations. In fact, pilots do not need to be licensed. However, I'm not aware of any SO doing this. Here comes another one of those "police pilots are not licensed" threads. Fact is isnsurance carriers will require a commercial license, minimum. For liability reasons, no agency would allow a unlicensed persion to pilot their aircraft. Thats basic common sense . At a minimum, law enforcement aircraft are maintained to part 91 standards. Since I started the thread, asked the question, and am new around these parts I hate that I have to do this but the statement that "Fact is insurance carriers will require a commercial license, minimum." Is not stopping all agencies. Here is an example of one with pilots with only Private ratings. They have 2 OH-58s and a Huey and one officer with a commercial ticket. http://www.acsoaviation.com/crewfram.htm |
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On 20 Aug 2003 22:35:14 -0700, (Ken Sandyeggo)
wrote: (Mr. MD500) wrote in message ... On 18 Aug 2003 19:51:13 -0700, (Jim Eli) wrote: "Gig Giacona" wrote in message ... Are any of you guys flying for "small" SOs that have received their helicopters from the military? How is your program set up? What are pilot requirements? IMHO, as "public use", SOs are not required to abide by FAA regulations. In fact, pilots do not need to be licensed. However, I'm not aware of any SO doing this. Here comes another one of those "police pilots are not licensed" threads. Fact is isnsurance carriers will require a commercial license, minimum. For liability reasons, no agency would allow a unlicensed persion to pilot their aircraft. Thats basic common sense . At a minimum, law enforcement aircraft are maintained to part 91 standards. They don't have to use certificated aircraft, however. But the vast majority do. |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:18:36 GMT, (Mr. MD500) wrote:
Can you name one agency that allows an unlicensed pilot to fly PIC? Name just one... Now you're putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said that any departments did that. Just stating what I know is the truth about how governments insure themselves. TM -- Toadmonkey: "Now now. Brain popping and world crashing may be hazardous to ones perception of reality. Very dangerous business that can lead to madness or something worse for some, truth." Remove "3+4" from addy before replying -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 20:13:05 GMT, (toadmonkey)
wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:18:36 GMT, (Mr. MD500) wrote: Can you name one agency that allows an unlicensed pilot to fly PIC? Name just one... Now you're putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said that any departments did that. Just stating what I know is the truth about how governments insure themselves. TM I didnt put any words in your mouth but from some of the comments the implication is law enforcement is allowing unlicensed pilots to fly PIC. That is simply not the case. Granted, some police pilots are cut loose with not much experience past a commercial check ride & the factory course in the aircraft they fly. This is perfectly legal. Just like commercial aviation, law enforcement has good & not so good pilots. The vast majority oin both arenas are highly competent. |
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The police dept here had people flying for 2 years with only a private. I
still think it would be wiser to have professional pilots to worry about the piloting and let the police worry about the policing. When the pilot starts being too much of a cop and not enough of a pilot is when things will turn bad. Here's an article praising the cops for finally getting their commercial tickets: http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll...EWS16/10804009 1/-1/ARCHIVES30 Dave (20hr student pilot) |
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